"Home Run" - Fly to/from every Class Bravo airport in the US

[Steve Kirks 1252923]

All:

 

I'm working on the initial planning for a 24 hour flight event called "Home Run" - fly to all of the airports in Cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] Bravo airspace in the continental United States within a 24 hour period. I'll use this thread to take feedback and ideas, plus post the route and guidelines.

 

Goal:

 

Start at an airport in Cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] Bravo Airspace (like Atlanta, Memphis, JFK, etc) and fly in a big "circle" to hit *every* airport in Cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] Bravo airspace.

 

List of Bravo Airports

 

Arizona:

PHX/KPHX Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport

 

California:

LAX/KLAX Los Angeles International

NKX/KNKX Marine Corps Air Station Miramar

SAN/KSAN San Diego International/Lindbergh Field

SFO/KSFO San Francisco International

 

Colorado:

DEN/KDEN Denver International

 

Florida:

MCO/KMCO Orlando International

MIA/KMIA Miami International

TPA/KTPA Tampa International

 

Georgia:

ATL/KATL Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International

 

Hawaii (not in the CONUS but here for accuracy)

HNL/PHNL Honolulu International

 

Illinois:

ORD/KORD Chicago O'Hare International

 

Kentucky:

CVG/KCVG Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International

 

Louisiana:

MSY/KMSY Louis Armstrong New Orleans International

 

Maryland:

ADW/KADW Andrews Air Force Base

BWI/KBWI Baltimore–Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport

 

M[Mod - Happy Thoughts]achusetts:

BOS/KBOS General Edward Lawrence Logan International (Boston)

 

Michigan:

DTW/KDTW Detroit Metropolitan Wayne County

 

Minnesota:

MSP/KMSP Minneapolis–Saint Paul International/Wold–Chamberlain

 

Missouri:

MCI/KMCI Kansas City International

STL/KSTL Lambert–St. Louis International

 

Nevada:

LAS/KLAS Las Vegas–McCarran International

 

New Jersey:

EWR/KEWR Newark Liberty International

 

New York:

JFK/KJFK John F. Kennedy International

LGA/KLGA New York–LaGuardia

 

North Carolina:

CLT/KCLT Charlotte Douglas International

 

Ohio:

CLE/KCLE Cleveland Hopkins International Airport

 

Pennsylvania:

PHL/KPHL Philadelphia International

PIT/KPIT Pittsburgh International

 

Tennessee:

MEM/KMEM Memphis International

 

Texas:

DFW/KDFW Dallas–Fort Worth International Airport

HOU/KHOU William P. Hobby Airport (Secondary Cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] B Airport)

IAH/KIAH George Bush Intercontinental (Houston)

 

Utah:

SLC/KSLC Salt Lake City International

 

Virginia:

DCA/KDCA Ronald Reagan Washington National

IAD/KIAD Washington Dulles International

 

Washington:

SEA/KSEA Seattle–Tacoma International

 

Routes:

 

Revised 11-18-2013:

 

Break the even into "loops" within ARTCCs and let everyone pick a "loop" to fly"

 

Loop A:

North East - Boston, Newark, JFK, LaGuardia, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh

 

Loop B

South East - Baltimore, Dulles, Reagan NationalCharlotte, Atlanta, Tampa, Orlando, Miami

 

Loop C

South Central - New Orleans, Memphis, DFW, Houston Hobby/George Bush

 

Loop D

South West - Phoenix, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, San Diego, Honolulu

 

Loop E

North West-ish- San Francisco, Seattle, Salt Lake City, Denver

 

Loop F

Central - Chicago, Kansas City, St. Louis, Detroit, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Minneapolis-St. Paul

 

Notes:

 

1. Need to modify the routes to keep as many legs within an ARTCC as possible to allow for easier ATC staffing.

2. Draw out a map.

3. The Northeastern block of routes need to be better matched to "real world" shuttle flights (like the Boston to Baltimore leg).

 

--11-15-2013--initial posting

--11-18-2013--posted cities in sectors or "loops" to work the idea that routes stay within ARTCCs as much as possible.

Edited November 18, 2013 at 05:01 PM by Guest

[Charan Kumar]

Wow, I didn't realize PANC was not a Cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] B airport. I know you are planning to depart and arrive at the same airport, but PHNL and back is 10hrs even with a 10mt turnaround, unless you are on the pointy. How about departing Seattle, around the country, finish in California and leave for PHNL as the last leg?

 

Anyway you go, May the clear skies and the strong winds take their respective places at the front and back.

 

Good luck and God Speed

[Steve Kirks 1252923]

Wow, I didn't realize PANC was not a Cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] B airport. I know you are planning to depart and arrive at the same airport, but PHNL and back is 10hrs even with a 10mt turnaround, unless you are on the pointy. How about departing Seattle, around the country, finish in California and leave for PHNL as the last leg?

 

I'm leaving Honolulu out of this for now since it's not the continental US and it adds a bunch of flight time. I also considered breaking this into "rings" that intersect:

 

Crude drawing:

Drawing1 by warwick, on Flickr

 

This might allow some people to fly the west ring, central ring or east ring based on time/desire/scenery...

[Mark Wolpert]

I think it would be better to break up the event into several parts that fly only within the rings (East, Central West) because I don't think it is physically possible to fly to all of the Cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] B in the continental USA with 24 hours. Or run it on the same day but participants pick one of the rings.

[Mark Wolpert]

Actually, just thinking about this further. How about limit the Airports to only one per state. All are available but participants pick only one per state.....eliminates the problematic JFK-EWR-LGA legs, etc. (ok I realize 2 states here).

[Steve Kirks 1252923]

Actually, just thinking about this further. How about limit the Airports to only one per state. All are available but participants pick only one per state.....eliminates the problematic JFK-EWR-LGA legs, etc. (ok I realize 2 states here).

 

I figured that the problematic JFK-EWR-LGA legs might be a real "hoot" for the controllers...

 

I'm going to plan this in rings like the map shows with real routes and see what the time shows. It seems more obvious to me now that this might be better for a long weekend. I also need to make sure these routes have plenty of overlap within the ARTCC so it's not a one-sided affair for a Bravo, where a bunch of people depart and the controllers have repetitive work.

 

I'll go back and update the main post as I go.

 

Thanks!

 

Steve

[Brad Littlejohn]

You left out one in your initial route: KLAS.

 

So for that, I'd suggest a slight modification to your route:

 

KTPA Tampa to KMSY New Orleans

KMSY New Orleans to KHOU Hobby

KHOU Hobby to KPHX Phoenix Sky Harbor

KPHX Phoenix Sky Harbor to KSAN San Diego

KSAN San Diego to PHNL Honolulu

PHNL Honolulu to KSEA Seattle

KSEA Seattle to KSFO San Francisco

KSFO San Francisco to KLAX Los Angeles

KLAX Los Angeles to KLAS Las Vegas

KLAS Las Vegas to KSLC Salt Lake City

KSLC Salt Lake City to KDEN Denver

KDEN Denver to KDFW Dallas/Fort Worth

KDFW Dallas/Fort Worth to KIAH George Bush

KIAH George Bush to KMEM Memphis

KMEM Memphis to KMCI Kansas City

KMCI Kansas City to KSTL St. Louis

KSTL St. Louis to KMSP Minneapolis-St. Paul

KMSP Minneapolis-St. Paul to KORD Chicago O'Hare

KORD Chicago O'Hare to KDTW Detroit

KDTW Detroit to KCVG Cincinnati

KCVG Cincinnatit to KCLE Cleveland

KCLE Cleveland to KATL Atlanta

KATL Atlanta to KCTL Charlotte

KCTL Charlotte to KPIT Pittsburgh

KPIT Pittsburgh to KPHL Philadelphia

KPHL Philadelphia to KBOS Boston Logan

KBOS Boston Logan to KBWI Baltimore

KBWI Baltimore to KJFK John F. Kennedy

KJFK John F. Kennedy to KIAD Washington Dulles

KIAD Washington Dulles to KEWR Newark

KEWR Newark to KDCA Regan National

KDCA Regan National KLGA La Guardia

KLGA La Guardia to KMIA Miami

 

What is in bold is what was changed.

 

EDIT: Alternate route (just thought of this) could also be:

 

KTPA Tampa to KMSY New Orleans

KMSY New Orleans to KHOU Hobby

KHOU Hobby to KPHX Phoenix Sky Harbor

KPHX Phoenix Sky Harbor to KLAS Las Vegas

KLAS Las Vegas to KSAN San Diego

KSAN San Diego to PHNL Honolulu

PHNL Honolulu to KLAX Los Angeles

KLAX Los Angeles to KSFO San Francisco

KSFO San Francisco to KSEA Seattle

KSEA Seattle to KSLC Salt Lake City

KSLC Salt Lake City to KDEN Denver

KDEN Denver to KDFW Dallas/Fort Worth

KDFW Dallas/Fort Worth to KIAH George Bush

KIAH George Bush to KMEM Memphis

KMEM Memphis to KMCI Kansas City

KMCI Kansas City to KSTL St. Louis

KSTL St. Louis to KMSP Minneapolis-St. Paul

KMSP Minneapolis-St. Paul to KORD Chicago O'Hare

KORD Chicago O'Hare to KDTW Detroit

KDTW Detroit to KCVG Cincinnati

KCVG Cincinnatit to KCLE Cleveland

KCLE Cleveland to KATL Atlanta

KATL Atlanta to KCTL Charlotte

KCTL Charlotte to KPIT Pittsburgh

KPIT Pittsburgh to KPHL Philadelphia

KPHL Philadelphia to KBOS Boston Logan

KBOS Boston Logan to KBWI Baltimore

KBWI Baltimore to KJFK John F. Kennedy

KJFK John F. Kennedy to KIAD Washington Dulles

KIAD Washington Dulles to KEWR Newark

KEWR Newark to KDCA Regan National

KDCA Regan National KLGA La Guardia

KLGA La Guardia to KMIA Miami

 

Again, bold is what changed. You could sneak in the Vegas leg from Phoenix, or pick it back up when you head back up to Salt Lake City.

 

BL.

Edited November 15, 2013 at 11:40 PM by Guest

[Steve Kirks 1252923]

You left out one in your initial route: KLAS.

 

So for that, I'd suggest a slight modification to your route:

 

Thanks...

 

Based on your forum sig, what do you think about the idea of keeping as many of the legs as possible within an ARTCC? Would it be more fun for you guys?

[Fred Michaels 1137645]

Honestly, to avoid having to come back south, there really is no reason to not get KMIA, KMCO and KTPA out of the way at the same time. It shouldn't be impossible to, really hauling it, complete the entire three in less than 2 hours.

[Brad Littlejohn]

You left out one in your initial route: KLAS.

 

So for that, I'd suggest a slight modification to your route:

 

Thanks...

 

Based on your forum sig, what do you think about the idea of keeping as many of the legs as possible within an ARTCC? Would it be more fun for you guys?

 

Wouldn't be a problem. You could then do a:

 

KPHX - KLAS

KLAS - KLAX

KLAX - KSAN

KSAN - PHNL

 

Those would lie in the same airspace, plus give you a reason to fly a TEC route instead of filing a full plan. ZLA may be small compared to some of the other sectors, but we are lucky to have 3 Cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] Bs in the same sector. The only one left out in the cold (pun intended) is ZAN, as both major airports there are Cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] C airports.

 

BL.

[Steve Kirks 1252923]

Wouldn't be a problem. You could then do a:

 

KPHX - KLAS

KLAS - KLAX

KLAX - KSAN

KSAN - PHNL

 

Those would lie in the same airspace, plus give you a reason to fly a TEC route instead of filing a full plan. ZLA may be small compared to some of the other sectors, but we are lucky to have 3 Cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] Bs in the same sector. The only one left out in the cold (pun intended) is ZAN, as both major airports there are Cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts] C airports.

 

BL.

 

I used your list as a template and changed the source post at the top of the chain to group some cities together.