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Curious why Paris and France so little traffic and ATC?


Calum Stevens
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Calum Stevens
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I was wondering, nearly every major European city is (at least a few times a week) well covered by ATC on Vatsim and has regular traffic in and out of it's airports (London, Dublin, Glasgow, Amsterdam, Berlin, Rome, Copenhagen... you get the picture). Also popular holiday destinations are more often than not covered and busy (Palma, Corfu, Canaries etc etc). Alas, France is always nearly deserted, void of stopping traffic and ATC. Particularly surprising is Paris, one of the biggest and busiest cities in Europe with several very busy airports (many of which covered by very good after-market scenery I might add) but I don't think I have EVER seen any form of ATC at Paris and indeed more often than not there isn't any people there.

 

No real reason for asking this I've just always been curious why there is this apparent "blackout" of Paris and France on Vatsim. I would have thought Paris would be as popular a destination as any other in Europe. It certainly is in real life.

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Wygene Chong 1089621
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I believe there is simply a lack of French VATSIM controllers, however, you can certainly find that Paris is still quite busy traffic-wise, particularly in the evenings in Europe. Controllers are online regularly and you can find their bookings at the VATFrance website:

 

http://www.vatfrance.org/

 

Of note is their new Paris CDG Online Day, every Tuesday night starting this week!

Wygene Chong

C1 Controller | Iceland | Greenland | Faroe Islands

VATSIM Scandinavia

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Alessandro Buscaglione
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This makes me think, Rome (and Italy) is online alot less than most of France and Paris. I don't recall France being short on ATCos but i could be wrong, maybe you just started noticing in a bad period?

 

And just as Wygene said, they have a weekly event just on CDG.

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Calum Stevens
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Maybe Rome was a bad example. Certainly Vienna and lots in Eastern Europe. I honestly cant ever remember seeing Paris online, maybe once TWR at the most. But never Radar. SW of France does sometimes have Centre on I'll give you that. Not having a go, just surprised that it is clearly more spartan than other EU countries. Was just wondering why.

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Erik Wachters
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This is probably the reason why they can't find new controllers:

 

(from their website)

The controller must be able to understand spoken French

The controller must be able to answer in French by voice or by text (according to his preference)

 

Erik

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Tim Wong
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For people who don't know it yet. Paris will be staffed every Tuesday.

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Sebastien Bartosz
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This is probably the reason why they can't find new controllers:

 

(from their website)

The controller must be able to understand spoken French

The controller must be able to answer in French by voice or by text (according to his preference)

 

Erik

 

But Erik, the same thing applies for VATSIM Germany, or Switzerland, no? Aren't their training docomeents in German and Swiss German respectively? Same thing with VATSIM Poland etc.

 

I do agree that the language restriction doesn't help, but I don't think it is THE problem.

 

If anything, it may be a language barrier. More people are proned to speak english in Germany, Eastern Europe, etc. than people in "Latin" Europe - Real world! So inevitably that goes for VATSIM too!

 

It may be demographics, too: Having lived in France and been a part of the French flight-sim community, I found that the flight-sim population was a lot older, as opposed to other countries where simmers seem to be younger. And maybe the "older" folks simply aren't interested in ATC. I really don't know to be honest.

 

However, I think Calum - who has been a member for 3 1/2 months, hasn't had enough time to really get a good idea yet.

 

Those are my 0.02$

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