alan cottrill 1301758 Posted October 13, 2015 at 05:16 PM Posted October 13, 2015 at 05:16 PM Hi. Today 13 oct 2015 , while on line flying from KAPA to KMIA , my VPILOT V1.1.5678.20264 BETA ,using UK1 server , i got 5 disconnects in a row , as quickly as i could reconnect, after the 5th failure it reconnected and stayed connected for rest of flight, the message was as follows:- [13:11:55] network error : p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (raw packet : s : tso759 : 1200 :1 : 55 . 41013 : nan : 591 : 0 : 4282386044 : - 494 ) [13:12:00] network error : p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (raw packet : s : tso759 : 1200 :1 : 55 . 41013 : nan : 591 : 0 : 4282386044 : - 494 ) [13:12:05] network error : p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (raw packet : s : tso759 : 1200 :1 : 55 . 41013 : nan : 591 : 0 : 4282386044 : - 494 ) [13:12:15] network error : p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (raw packet : s : tso759 : 1200 :1 : 55 . 41013 : nan : 591 : 0 : 4282386044 : - 494 ) [13:12:20] network error : p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (raw packet : s : tso759 : 1200 :1 : 55 . 41013 : nan : 591 : 0 : 4282386044 : - 494 ) At the time of the disconnections i was flying with FSX using the Carenado PC12 and ASN weather which is to SP3. and cloud coverage was heavy , and could not see the ground below , i dont know weather ASN interfered with Vpilot in anyway ,but thought i would mention this just in case it helps identify the problem. Regards alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Hardern Posted October 13, 2015 at 05:26 PM Posted October 13, 2015 at 05:26 PM I've split your posts to the vPilot forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted October 13, 2015 at 07:17 PM Posted October 13, 2015 at 07:17 PM Alan, have you made any changes to the date and number formatting settings in Windows? That was the cause of this same error for another user. You can see details in this thread in the vPilot forum: http://www1.metacraft.com/VRC/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3381 I added a workaround for this issue in version 1.1.5638.40065, which is older than the version you're running, so I'm not sure why you're getting the issue. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus holmes Posted October 13, 2015 at 10:13 PM Posted October 13, 2015 at 10:13 PM I know a number of people including myself that have had this problem recently. This happen to me about 1 week ago, also on the UK server. I just disconnected and reconnected and all was good. I do not think the problem is Vpilot, but maybe a server issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan cottrill 1301758 Posted October 14, 2015 at 11:09 AM Author Posted October 14, 2015 at 11:09 AM Hi. About a month ago , my pc had a bias clock freeze problem , that seemed to disapear after i took out the motherboard battery , checked its voltage and put it back in , then reset the clock,but its been ok since then,and i have made a few online flights since without problems,i dont know if my ASN weather programe interfered with vpilot or not , thats why i stated in my post , that cloud cover was thick and could not see the ground below at the time. I have the real world weather updated about every 15 min linked to vatsim weather , so i get the same weather in my fsx as is showing on vatsim and skyvector,which i use , for flight planning/weather reports . Its just as well i was at the controls when it played up,and was able to get connect after my 5th attempt,had i been getting a brew or call of nature when it happened my flight would have been ruined,and i am attempting a round the world tour in a modified pc12,doing the route that emelia rose earhart did in her pc12 ng last year. So my fights are going to be long ones , so i can do without this type of a problem,thankfully it does not happen to much. regards alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan cottrill 1301758 Posted October 17, 2015 at 12:20 PM Author Posted October 17, 2015 at 12:20 PM Hi. Today saturday 17 oct 2015 i have suffered yet another vpilot p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] errors , it is different from my first post, but still happened five times in quick succession , after disconnecting and reconnecting. messages as follows. [11 : 56 : 46] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : PSW65 : 1200 : 1 : 54 . 50561 : nan : 127 : 3 : 8390072 : 406) [11 : 56 : 51] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : PSW65 : 1200 : 1 : 54 . 50561 : nan : 127 : 3 : 8390072 : 406) [11 : 56 : 56] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : PSW65 : 1200 : 1 : 54 . 50561 : nan : 127 : 3 : 8390072 : 406) [11 : 57 : 06] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : PSW65 : 1200 : 1 : 54 . 50561 : nan : 127 : 3 : 8390072 : 406) [11 : 57 : 11] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : PSW65 : 1200 : 1 : 54 . 50561 : nan : 127 : 3 : 8390072 : 406) what causes these errors , i have not changed anything within my pc , still same version of vpilot as previously mentioned and still on same uk1 server. regards alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Kolin Posted October 18, 2015 at 02:37 PM Posted October 18, 2015 at 02:37 PM Looks like the longitude is "Not A Number". Makes me wonder if it's a p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error on the server or whether that value is being sent from VPilot. Cheers! Luke ... I spawn hundreds of children a day. They are daemons because they are easier to kill. The first four remain stubbornly alive despite my (and their) best efforts. ... Normal in my household makes you a member of a visible minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan cottrill 1301758 Posted October 18, 2015 at 04:04 PM Author Posted October 18, 2015 at 04:04 PM Hi Today 18 oct 2015. yet more p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] errors , this time i had just gone in the kitchen to get a drink , came back to find it had disconnected me , and had to reconnect , i am on a long flight so i am hopeing it does not invalidate my VA flight . The errors are as follows:- [ 15 : 48 : 10 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : G-GHKX : 1200 : 1 : 53 .86376 : nan : 686 : 0 : 2296 : - 288) [ 15 : 48 : 15 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : G-GHKX : 1200 : 1 : 53 .86376 : nan : 686 : 0 : 2296 : - 288) [ 15 : 48 : 20 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : G-GHKX : 1200 : 1 : 53 .86376 : nan : 686 : 0 : 2296 : - 288) [ 15 : 48 : 25 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : G-GHKX : 1200 : 1 : 53 .86376 : nan : 686 : 0 : 2296 : - 288) [ 15 : 48 : 30 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : G-GHKX : 1200 : 1 : 53 .86376 : nan : 686 : 0 : 2296 : - 288) Why does it always do this five times in a row , in quick succesion . I disconnected and reconnected , with out a problem . This is beginning to bug me , as to what is wrong. Regards alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted October 18, 2015 at 05:52 PM Posted October 18, 2015 at 05:52 PM I'm pretty much stumped on this one. I can't tell if the "not a number" (nan) value for the longitude is coming from vPilot, or from the server. Since it's only the longitude that is showing "nan", and the latitude is parsing fine, that makes me think it's not an issue related to regional number formatting (using comma instead of decimal) but rather an issue with the value being out of bounds or something like that. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillip Speer Posted October 18, 2015 at 08:32 PM Posted October 18, 2015 at 08:32 PM Not sure if it helps (or if same issue or a different one) but I had a similar occurence today. Flying on UK1 using VPilot, ASN, PMDG B737-800. The messages I received are below. [20:01:57] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: N:C-EDRT:1200:1:62.06694:nan:285:0:4282385668:-258) [20:02:02] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: N:C-EDRT:1200:1:62.06694:nan:285:0:4282385668:-258) [20:02:07] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: N:C-EDRT:1200:1:62.06694:nan:285:0:4282385668:-258) [20:02:12] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: N:C-EDRT:1200:1:62.06694:nan:285:0:4282385668:-258) [20:02:17] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: N:C-EDRT:1200:1:62.06694:nan:285:0:4282385668:-258) Phillip VATSIM UK Divisional Instructor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Benelli Posted October 18, 2015 at 08:48 PM Posted October 18, 2015 at 08:48 PM Is this always only UK1? Luca Benelli - C3 - P2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan cottrill 1301758 Posted October 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM Author Posted October 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM Hi. I cannot answer that at this time , because i have always used this server since it replaced the original uk server , only time i have switched server , is when i was in the middle of a long online flight , and uk1 server went off line , possibly for maintenance , and i switched to another server , to finish my online flight with the va i fly for , as online flying is a requirment for them after a max of ten flights off line , for testing the other software set up. I can try another server for a while and monitor the results . regards alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Hamilton 1215492 Posted October 20, 2015 at 12:30 PM Posted October 20, 2015 at 12:30 PM It's not just UK1. I got the same series of errors a week or so ago from Europe N. Ned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan cottrill 1301758 Posted October 21, 2015 at 01:47 PM Author Posted October 21, 2015 at 01:47 PM Hi. Today i got some more p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] errors messages as follows:- [ 13 : 21 : 55 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : MTN2516 : 2200 : 1 : 49 . 19141 : nan : 22 : 0 : 20971928 :- 308) [ 13 : 22 : 05 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : MTN2516 : 2200 : 1 : 49 . 19141 : nan : 22 : 0 : 20971928 :- 308) [ 13 : 22 : 10 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : MTN2516 : 2200 : 1 : 49 . 19141 : nan : 22 : 0 : 20971928 :- 308) [ 13 : 22 : 15 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : MTN2516 : 2200 : 1 : 49 . 19141 : nan : 22 : 0 : 20971928 :- 308) [ 13 : 22 : 20 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : MTN2516 : 2200 : 1 : 49 . 19141 : nan : 22 : 0 : 20971928 :- 308) [ 13 : 22 : 25 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : MTN2516 : 2200 : 1 : 49 . 19141 : nan : 22 : 0 : 20971928 :- 308) I am using FSX still at this time UK1 server , for my weather i use ASN next at SP3 , with REX4 textures Vpilot as my online software. ASN next SP3 altered the simconnection when it was updated , could this be the reason behind these p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] errors,that you thought you had sorted , i am not a programe writer , so i am just trying to get to the source of the ptroblem , as it is a frustration that we could all do without , i will stick with uk1 server till this pc12 round the world tour is finished , then i will try other servers , to see if and when i get these errors. regards alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted October 21, 2015 at 02:02 PM Posted October 21, 2015 at 02:02 PM ASN next SP3 altered the simconnection when it was updated , could this be the reason behind these p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] errors No, the issue isn't on your end. It's on the sending end. What you're seeing are the position data packets that every pilot client sends out every 5 seconds. In your example, they are coming from MTN2516. His copy of vPilot is sending invalid position packets. Something on his end is causing the longitude value to appear as "nan", which means "not a number". So something on his end is resulting in invalid longitude values. When these invalid position data packets are sent out to the server from MTN2516's vPilot, the server then rebroadcasts them to all pilots and controllers within range, and when your copy of vPilot sees "nan" as the longitude value, it throws out that p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. I need to figure out why some users are sending out invalid position packets. For now all I can do is collect information. To all users who have received these errors, please answer the following question: How many (rough number is ok) of these error messages did you get? Where there only a few (4 or 5) or did you get dozens of them? Obviously it'll depend on how long the other aircraft was in range, but what I'm trying to determine is if EVERY position data packet sent by the other aircraft was invalid, or only some of them. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted October 21, 2015 at 03:05 PM Board of Governors Posted October 21, 2015 at 03:05 PM Ross, is it at all interesting that the nan's were sent on the same minute that the pilot disconnected from the network? Callsign Session Start Session End One of the nan errors Flight Plan Departure-Destination MTN2516 10/21/15 10:11 10/21/15 13:22 [ 13 : 22 : 25 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : MTN2516 : 2200 : 1 : 49 . 19141 : nan : 22 : 0 : 20971928 :- 308) KDEN-CYVR C-EDRT 10/18/15 19:44 10/18/15 20:02 [ 20 : 02 : 17] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : C-EDRT : 1200 : 1 : 62 . 06694 : nan : 285 : 0 : 4282385668 :-258) EKVG-EGLL G-GHKX 10/18/15 15:33 10/18/15 15:48 [ 15 : 48 : 10 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : N : G-GHKX : 1200 : 1 : 53 .86376 : nan : 686 : 0 : 2296 : - 288) EGNM-LOWW Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted October 21, 2015 at 03:25 PM Posted October 21, 2015 at 03:25 PM Yeah, definitely interesting. Makes me wonder if maybe the issue is somehow related to the order in which the pilot shuts things down when ending their flight. E.g. if they close FSX/P3D before disconnecting from VATSIM, maybe in that case vPilot gets invalid values from SimConnect while the sim is shutting down. Another possibility is that the server is forcefully disconnecting the pilot after too many erroneous packets. Don, can you tell whether or not they appear to have finished their flights? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted October 21, 2015 at 05:26 PM Board of Governors Posted October 21, 2015 at 05:26 PM Yes, they did. Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted October 21, 2015 at 05:54 PM Posted October 21, 2015 at 05:54 PM Okay, thanks. So it's probably reasonably safe to [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ume that they were not forcefully disconnected by the server after a certain number of erroneous packets. The question remains as to why the longitude is being sent as "nan", even though the latitude is fine. Still scratching my head on that one ... Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Walsh Posted October 22, 2015 at 01:30 AM Posted October 22, 2015 at 01:30 AM [01:26:54] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: S:N4818D:1200:1:41.73146:nan:59:0:4072:-339) [01:26:59] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: S:N4818D:1200:1:41.73146:nan:59:0:4072:-339) [01:27:04] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: S:N4818D:1200:1:41.73146:nan:59:0:4072:-339) [01:27:09] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: S:N4818D:1200:1:41.73146:nan:59:0:4072:-339) [01:27:14] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: S:N4818D:1200:1:41.73146:nan:59:0:4072:-339) [01:27:19] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: S:N4818D:1200:1:41.73146:nan:59:0:4072:-339) [01:27:24] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: S:N4818D:1200:1:41.73146:nan:59:0:4072:-339) [01:27:29] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: S:N4818D:1200:1:41.73146:nan:59:0:4072:-339) [01:27:34] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: S:N4818D:1200:1:41.73146:nan:59:0:4072:-339) USA-E server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted October 22, 2015 at 02:00 AM Board of Governors Posted October 22, 2015 at 02:00 AM N4818D 10/22/15 01:25 10/22/15 01:27 [01:27:34] Network error: P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error. (Raw packet: S:N4818D:1200:1:41.73146:nan:59:0:4072:-339) No plans filed http://vataware.com/flight/56283bc05352337375000003 Note his position as of 0127Z: 22 Oct 2015 - 01:27 41° 43' 53" N, 0° 0' 0" W I just spoke to the pilot. His sim crashed while he was relocating from KBDL to KPVD, so obviously his FSX connection dropped and then his vPilot. Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted October 22, 2015 at 02:12 AM Posted October 22, 2015 at 02:12 AM Thanks Don ... obviously, the sim crash was probably a factor here. I still don't see why the latitude is reading fine but not the longitude. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan cottrill 1301758 Posted October 22, 2015 at 05:12 PM Author Posted October 22, 2015 at 05:12 PM Hi . Today i was doing leg 12 of 17 legs , from WSSL to YPDN on a round the world tour , the flight was going well , i had just gone past the last landfall , before australia , about 7 hours online flying , when something interfered with the carenado PC12 and i had catastrophic multi failures , yet i have random failures in FSX turned off , for online flying , so this should not have happened , needless to say flight was ruined , did , my flight generate any p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] errors from suddenly having to end my flight . And i think ASN was the culprit behind my multi failures , with a posible corrupt weather data , but have no hard proof of this , but only thing i can think off as it updates the weather every 15min , i had no proir warning of any failures they all happened out of the blue . regards alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Hamilton 1215492 Posted October 23, 2015 at 01:30 PM Posted October 23, 2015 at 01:30 PM To all users who have received these errors, please answer the following question: (1) In my case it happened once in the past several weeks and I fly almost every day. About 8 lines of the p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error message. (2) Why does vPilot or the VATSIM servers p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] location data if the data is clearly wrong? Ned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan cottrill 1301758 Posted October 23, 2015 at 05:39 PM Author Posted October 23, 2015 at 05:39 PM Hi . Today i did my flight from WSSL to YPDN , i was on line for over 8 hours , i had one p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error message , did not need to disconnect and reconnect , as vpilot stayed connected , the following error happed once as below:- [ 16 : 22 : 38 ] Network error : P[Mod - Happy Thoughts] error . (Raw packet : S : BAW179 : 1200 : 1 : 51 . 47315 : nan : 96 : 0 : 1024 :-170) When i looked at flights on vatspy , BAW179 had logged on and prebooked a flight then disconnected , hope this helps in solving these error messages. regards alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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