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Question for EGLL controllers - 09 OPS


Mark Wolpert
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Mark Wolpert
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Just wondering why on departure when using the 09's pilots are given a heading.....example - after 2 DME LON turn right 220......rather than just [Mod - Happy Thoughts]igning the appropriate SID to follow off of the 09 runway. I suspect its because pilots don't follow the turns correctly but maybe there is another reason. thanks.

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Phillip Speer
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Hi Mark,

 

The CPT SIDs on easterly operations conflict with arrivals from the BIG/OCK stacks during normal operations. When quiet (at night and no other traffic) then you may be [Mod - Happy Thoughts]igned the SID, though bear in mind potential conflicting arrival traffic would be unknown to DEL/GND/TWR controllers a this time.

Due to this conflict, departures are vectored until clear of the arriving traffic and will be put on own navigation by the TC/AC London controllers (there is an LOA that Heathrow will hand off on a heading to TC London.

Due to the arrival streams and the RMA there is no way of a SID avoiding the traffic (without taking a long way south similar to the GASGU departures before routing north again.

 

Phillip

VATSIM UK Divisional Instructor

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Mark Wolpert
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Thanks Phillip, appreciate the response. I somehow thought it was pilots not following the published SID properly so it was better to vector.

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