Andrea Mazzoni Posted June 21, 2019 at 02:53 PM Posted June 21, 2019 at 02:53 PM Hello VATSIM users, I have a question to staff members regardingany VATSIM rank for pilots and atc. I have a friend, which is a real pilot, that would join VATSIM. If he will join the network, does VATSIM apply a policy to recognize real licences for pilot and atc's and [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ign automatically a similar rating for his personal account? Thanks in advance, happy winds to everyone Sometimes things get complicated. ATC on VATSIM as Milano Radar (LIMM_N_CTR) Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/italianalien21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Littlejohn Posted June 21, 2019 at 04:53 PM Posted June 21, 2019 at 04:53 PM Hello VATSIM users, I have a question to staff members regardingany VATSIM rank for pilots and atc. I have a friend, which is a real pilot, that would join VATSIM. If he will join the network, does VATSIM apply a policy to recognize real licences for pilot and atc's and [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ign automatically a similar rating for his personal account? Thanks in advance, happy winds to everyone It used to be (and a LONG LONG time ago at that, possibly back to SATCO) that if a person joined the network and they were either a real world pilot or ATC, would automagically come in at the C1 rating. Whether that is true or not now I don't know, but may be something to look into, or even a quick email to the Membership team to see if they still accommodate for that. BL. Brad Littlejohn ZLA Senior Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted June 21, 2019 at 09:09 PM Board of Governors Posted June 21, 2019 at 09:09 PM There is currently no allowance for that. However, it should be recognized that RW ratings should make it much easier to earn ratings here. Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Cogo Posted July 13, 2019 at 05:26 PM Posted July 13, 2019 at 05:26 PM I have heard of VA’s taking VATSIM sim flight hours and applying them towards your VA hour total. At the last VA I flew for they accepted most (about 75%) of my VATSIM hours. I wish they would transfer over real world hours into the VATSIM. This would allow some real world aviators to increase their VATSIM hours. Private Pilot's License, A.A.S. Aviation Science Former VATUSA I1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted July 13, 2019 at 06:08 PM Posted July 13, 2019 at 06:08 PM We have quite a few real world pilots and controllers here holding a real world licence means that you are competent and it should be easy to quickly proceed through the ranks. Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Cogo Posted July 14, 2019 at 03:01 AM Posted July 14, 2019 at 03:01 AM Yes. I wonder if VATSIM would implement this. Private Pilot's License, A.A.S. Aviation Science Former VATUSA I1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted July 14, 2019 at 08:55 AM Posted July 14, 2019 at 08:55 AM So far it was not really thaaaaaaaat important, because our RW pilots and controllers do not take that much importance in the virtual ratings they hold. As an online pilot you do not need any rating to fly with us and as an ATCO their local and regional training organization may have a fast-track system to whizz them through the ranks: they still have to prove that they are competent. I am a real world ATPL, but by no means am I a brilliant vATCO! I got my rating in the old days, lucky me. These days I probably would not make it past S3 or C1, but that's sufficient! I am the first to admit that we have a lot of virtual ATCOs who are much more competent in this than I am. Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Simon Kelsey Posted July 14, 2019 at 09:39 AM Board of Governors Posted July 14, 2019 at 09:39 AM I think the other very important point to note is that as we actually see fairly regularly on these forums, real-world experience does not necessarily equate directly to VATSIM requirements etc. The VATSIM world obviously aims to replicate real-world procedures, but there are quite a lot of processes, rules and conventions which are very different and which a real-world trained pilot or ATCO would have no particular knowledge of. Unicom, top-down coverage, transponder operating requirements, use of software, processes and conventions for how coordination is handled between VATSIM ATC units, the way weather works on the network, the CoC and so on are all unique. Ergo: as Andreas says, holding a real-world qualification obviously gives one a good head start as far as the nuts and bolts of flying an aircraft/keeping the blips apart are concerned, but there's a lot of ancilliary network-specific stuff that is not covered in any real ATPL or ATCO course! Vice President, Pilot Training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Christie Posted July 27, 2019 at 11:13 AM Posted July 27, 2019 at 11:13 AM The online environment is totally different to the real world envroment. In my country, potential ATC's start their job in Enroute, and work there for about 5 years before being allowed to apply to work other positions like TWR or TCU, In vatsim, we start at TWR and work up to ENR via APP, so a qualified ENR controller in the real world, would need to be trained up on TWR and APP before having their real world qualifications reconised. Kirk Christie - VATPAC C3 VATPAC Undercover ATC Agent Worldflight Perth 737-800 Crew Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted July 27, 2019 at 07:08 PM Posted July 27, 2019 at 07:08 PM In Germany you, as a student, have to decide whether you'd like to be an enroute or a terminal controller. This is sort of non-reversible on non-compatible. For example, if you choose to become a controller at Frankfurt Approach, you'll never make it into "Rhein Radar" (upper area enroute control) and vice-versa. They really separate these categories. Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Littlejohn Posted July 29, 2019 at 04:47 PM Posted July 29, 2019 at 04:47 PM In Germany you, as a student, have to decide whether you'd like to be an enroute or a terminal controller. This is sort of non-reversible on non-compatible. For example, if you choose to become a controller at Frankfurt Approach, you'll never make it into "Rhein Radar" (upper area enroute control) and vice-versa. They really separate these categories. Yet in the US at some locations, it's just a trip down the elevator. BL. Brad Littlejohn ZLA Senior Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Jenkins Posted July 30, 2019 at 11:46 AM Posted July 30, 2019 at 11:46 AM Yet in the US at some locations, it's just a trip down the elevator. BL. Or up it... Josh Jenkins CZVR I1 controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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