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Model matching in msfs?


Eytan Ofir
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Eytan Ofir
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Had a look on the topics but did not find anything about model matching...

does somthing exist?

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Ross Carlson

I will eventually be teaching vPilot how to scan your installed liveries. Right now, it's not fully clear to me how to discover all community add-on liveries and models and how they interact and overr

Diego Vasquez

Thanks and apologies for being extremely specific... gotcha about models, what about liveries?

Matthew Bartels

if the freeware developers create the models and paints then I don't see why not. The issue right now is that the legacy models and paints from FSX P3D do not work with MSFS and thus must be made new.

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Koen Meier
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Currently only default models can be used.

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Eytan Ofir
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Just now, Koen Meier said:

Currently only default models can be used.

thank you!

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Diego Vasquez
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4 hours ago, Koen Meier said:

Currently only default models can be used.

Thanks and apologies for being extremely specific... gotcha about models, what about liveries?

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Ross Carlson
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Same deal ... vPilot has hardcoded model matching rules that use the default models and liveries. You can load a custom model matching rule set if you want to override the hardcoded default model rules, or if you have installed some third-party models/liveries that you want to use.

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Ross Carlson
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7 hours ago, Koen Meier said:

Currently only default models can be used.

You can use third party models by installing a custom model matching rule set. (A VMR file.)

If you don't load in a custom VMR file, vPilot will only use the default models and liveries.

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Eytan Ofir
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i will specify my question a bit more.. i was wondering if any 3rd party model matching program was allready available already.

thanks

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Mats Wennberg
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Is there a list of how to format the different aircraft models. e.g. How do we know how to input the King air. B350, B350i ?
I would have expected this to be a drop down menu.

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Ross Carlson
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Format them where? What are you referring to?

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Mats Wennberg
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44 minutes ago, Ross Carlson said:

Format them where? What are you referring to?

In vPilot > Settings > Model matching. 
The default model field, in what way do we format the model code we choose to fly that particular day?

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Ross Carlson
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That's not what that field is for. Have a look at the documentation.

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Michael Krause
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Hi Mats,

I think this is the drop-down you are looking for - here you select the aircraft type you are using yourself:

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Lothar Gentzsch
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For the near future: Can we expect a model matching with the FLAI- Modelset, like in Vpilot and SWIFT ?

Has anybody information for that ?

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Lothar

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Matthew Bartels
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if the freeware developers create the models and paints then I don't see why not. The issue right now is that the legacy models and paints from FSX P3D do not work with MSFS and thus must be made new. Once that happens, there is no reason on our side that they would not be able to work on VATSIM with a new VMR

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Amir Parsian
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Hi,

I have installed some converted MTL files for MFS2020 that can be use in Vatsim however Vpilot doesn't read/search necessary folders. I remember we had a tool called "VMRGenerator" which could solve this issue but it is not available anymore. Does anyone have any suggestions?

 

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Ross Carlson
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You could build your own VMR file manually.

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Amir Parsian
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3 minutes ago, Ross Carlson said:

You could build your own VMR file manually.

there are too many liveries and manually it would take ages, I wrote a programme in Vb.net to make the job easier but still I would of preferred the Vpilot auto search 😛

 

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Ross Carlson
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I will eventually be teaching vPilot how to scan your installed liveries. Right now, it's not fully clear to me how to discover all community add-on liveries and models and how they interact and override with the official packages. Once I have that full understanding from Asobo, I will add the same scanning functionality for MSFS that already exists for FSX and P3D.

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1 minute ago, Ross Carlson said:

I will eventually be teaching vPilot how to scan your installed liveries. Right now, it's not fully clear to me how to discover all community add-on liveries and models and how they interact and override with the official packages. Once I have that full understanding from Asobo, I will add the same scanning functionality for MSFS that already exists for FSX and P3D.

That would be great, thank you.

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Andrew Purdie
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I'd like to know how we can create a VRM to point vPilot to the community folder and access the converted liveries. This way, they can be used for Live, AI, Online, and Vatsim traffic. I've been searching the web, to no avail about how to create a custom VRM. I remember there used to be a VRM generator, which has since been taken down due to vPilot's integration of that software.
 

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Dwane Gidden
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Post removed. Violations of the terms of service for the model match set in use.  Sorry. - MB

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Diego Vasquez
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On 9/7/2020 at 10:08 PM, Matthew Bartels said:

if the freeware developers create the models and paints then I don't see why not. The issue right now is that the legacy models and paints from FSX P3D do not work with MSFS and thus must be made new. Once that happens, there is no reason on our side that they would not be able to work on VATSIM with a new VMR

 

On 9/9/2020 at 11:39 AM, Ross Carlson said:

I will eventually be teaching vPilot how to scan your installed liveries. Right now, it's not fully clear to me how to discover all community add-on liveries and models and how they interact and override with the official packages. Once I have that full understanding from Asobo, I will add the same scanning functionality for MSFS that already exists for FSX and P3D.

Dear @Ross Carlson @Matthew Bartels

There is an effort already ongoing to bring FLAi models to FS2020, hopefully soon there will be enough out there to start chewing on it!

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/announcement-fslivetraffic-liveries-fsltl/297900/1

Current Status:

  • Working model matching for FLAi aircraft in MSFS.
    • 99% of all aircraft have correct configs (including liveries).
  • Hand tested 20% of FLAi Aircraft. We have signed off on around 17% of them.
  • Assembled group of coders, modelers, and enthusiasts.
  • Assembled closed Alpha testing team.
  • Experimental AI Traffic flight plans FOR FLAi aircraft.
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Andrew Purdie
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OH man, that seems incredibly complicated. I'm on the testing team for that traffic program above, and we'd really like to get this working with Vatsim. Is there no other way to point vPilot towards a specified folder other than using a custom VRM? That old VRM generator was perfect.

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Ross Carlson
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1 hour ago, Andrew Purdie said:

Is there no other way to point vPilot towards a specified folder other than using a custom VRM?

As I mentioned earlier, I will be teaching vPilot how to scan for installed models in MSFS. (Which is exactly what VMRGenerator did, and is exactly what vPilot now does for FSX and P3D.) Asobo completely changed the file and folder structure for MSFS, so the old way that vPilot and VMRGenerator used is not applicable.

And it's VMR, not VRM. VRM is a voltage regulator on your motherboard. :D

Quite likely, the FSLTL team will create the VMR file for you, just like the FLAi team did.

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