Andrew McCabe Posted January 22, 2021 at 06:46 PM Posted January 22, 2021 at 06:46 PM If I fly trans Atlantic and ATC is online, is the use of Nattrack expected or was that only in use for the CTP event ? Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torben Andersen Posted January 23, 2021 at 09:51 AM Posted January 23, 2021 at 09:51 AM If you fly in the NAT track area, you can naturally fly the NAT track. It is not mandatory and you can fly a random route, but if it interferes with the NAT tracks, it's best to adhere to the NAT track. But crossing the Atlantic can be done both North and South of the NAT area. Flying to/from Central/Western US/Canada often leads you over Greenland and thus a random route. But NATs are used on a daily basis on VATSIM and not just during events. regards Torben Andersen, VACC-SCA Controller (C1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted January 23, 2021 at 10:20 AM Posted January 23, 2021 at 10:20 AM (edited) Maybe he meant the natTRAK application/website? https://nattrak.vatsim.net/ Edited January 23, 2021 at 10:20 AM by Andreas Fuchs Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew McCabe Posted January 23, 2021 at 12:00 PM Author Posted January 23, 2021 at 12:00 PM Yes it was the natTRAK application I was referring to. Sorry for the confusion. Been a while since I flew trans Atlantic and last time it was text posreps etc. I had logged into natTRAK to familiarise myself with the application but could not see where or how to input a clearance request, not realising I had to be logged onto VATSIM first to see the PILOT option 😳. Regards Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted January 23, 2021 at 02:08 PM Posted January 23, 2021 at 02:08 PM Ok, then we can answer the question: during normal operations, natTRAK is not in use. But look out for Oceanic controllers using CPDLC via Hoppie to get your clearance and to transmit position reports, this might be useful. Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Ogden Posted January 24, 2021 at 11:36 PM Posted January 24, 2021 at 11:36 PM On 1/24/2021 at 1:08 AM, Andreas Fuchs said: Ok, then we can answer the question: during normal operations, natTRAK is not in use. But look out for Oceanic controllers using CPDLC via Hoppie to get your clearance and to transmit position reports, this might be useful. This is not correct. natTrak is available for use any time of day, and most oceanic controllers do monitor the tool 😄. 1 Andrew Ogden Gander Oceanic OCA Chief Vancouver FIR Senior Instructor Visit us: https://ganderoceanic.ca Contact: [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted January 24, 2021 at 11:39 PM Posted January 24, 2021 at 11:39 PM Hi Andrew, thanks for the correction. I was under the impression that it is not really being used outside events. Especially the title "Welcome to Cross The Pond Eastbound 2020!" does suggest this, that's what probably lured me into this incorrect statement 😄 And: the last few times I had a look at the controller-info of Oceanic ATCOs, the use of natTRAK was not mentioned. Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Ogden Posted January 25, 2021 at 06:58 AM Posted January 25, 2021 at 06:58 AM 7 hours ago, Andreas Fuchs said: Hi Andrew, thanks for the correction. I was under the impression that it is not really being used outside events. Especially the title "Welcome to Cross The Pond Eastbound 2020!" does suggest this, that's what probably lured me into this incorrect statement 😄 And: the last few times I had a look at the controller-info of Oceanic ATCOs, the use of natTRAK was not mentioned. Haha, no problem! There is a lot of confusion around oceanic at the moment, and it's something we are working on. Andrew Ogden Gander Oceanic OCA Chief Vancouver FIR Senior Instructor Visit us: https://ganderoceanic.ca Contact: [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew McCabe Posted January 25, 2021 at 08:53 AM Author Posted January 25, 2021 at 08:53 AM OK thanks for the comments. I'll try to be prepared for all eventualities 👍 Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauri Uusitalo Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:10 AM Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:10 AM (edited) On 1/25/2021 at 1:36 AM, Andrew Ogden said: This is not correct. natTrak is available for use any time of day, and most oceanic controllers do monitor the tool 😄. May be I am stupid, but natTRAK shows no menu etc for me. I can login but that's it... edit. now I read "Please note you can only use natTRAK's features when connected to the VATSIM network." So I have to have xPilot logged in? Edited January 27, 2021 at 08:12 AM by Lauri Uusitalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen Meier Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:34 AM Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:34 AM 24 minutes ago, Lauri Uusitalo said: May be I am stupid, but natTRAK shows no menu etc for me. I can login but that's it... edit. now I read "Please note you can only use natTRAK's features when connected to the VATSIM network." So I have to have xPilot logged in? Yes. Any connection to the vatsim network as a pilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thimo Koolen Posted January 28, 2021 at 09:09 PM Posted January 28, 2021 at 09:09 PM I tried NatTrack last week on my first Oceanic flight, but the dropdown (I believe it was a dropdown) didn't show any NAT tracks that are available. Was this a bug at the time (Saturday)? ACCNL4 (Training Director) - Dutch VACC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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