Feature Request: Include the N1 and N2 variables from the user planes in vPilot

[Nico Massi]

The recently introduced FSLTL models are coming along with very nice sound effects. Unfortunately the N1 and N2 variables from the user planes are not supported by vPilot and therefore the users plane have allways a value of 80 which generates unrealistic sound.  I would like to ask if this two variables could be supported from vPilot in the future? I thank you in advance for considering to implement this two variables.

[Andreas Lindemann]

It’d be great if this can be looked into so that we can improve the experience for FSLTL / Vatsim users a bit.

Having a cold and dark plane spawn next to you with loud engine noise is a bit of a bummer. 😄

Edited October 22, 2022 at 06:50 AM by Andreas Lindemann

[Roger Gantner]

I, too, would appreciate this to be looked at. Aircraft taxiing by sound like they are at takeoff thrust.

Edited October 22, 2022 at 08:26 AM by Roger Gantner

[Franck Cagnes]

that would be a great addition 

[Marcel Verheydt]

This is a shot from Simvars viewer of a default Asobo Jet standing idle on the ground using vPilot. Sounds of FSLTL aircraft are more true to life, so they are screaming at 90% N2 in this case.

 

 

Edited October 22, 2022 at 12:56 PM by Marcel Verheydt

[Alok Mishra]

Bump

[Roger Gantner]

1 hour ago, Marcel Verheydt said:

This is a shot from Simvars viewer of a default Asobo Jet standing idle on the ground. Sounds of FSLTL aircraft are more true to life, so they are screaming at 90% N2 in this case.

 

 

So, are you saying that this is a MSFS problem and not a vPilot problem?

[Marcel Verheydt]

1 hour ago, Roger Gantner said:

So, are you saying that this is a MSFS problem and not a vPilot problem?

No, this happens with vPilot.

[Ross Carlson]

Unfortunately, the VATSIM network protocol doesn't currently support sending engine power levels over the network. VATSIM would need to get that added to the network protocol before we could set it in vPilot or any other client.

[Nico Massi]

thanks a lot for your reply. is it possible to make a request to vatsim to add the engine power level?

[Roger Gantner]

1 hour ago, Ross Carlson said:

Unfortunately, the VATSIM network protocol doesn't currently support sending engine power levels over the network. VATSIM would need to get that added to the network protocol before we could set it in vPilot or any other client.

Ohhh boy, that's an oversight..

We need to notify them about this; or are they aware?

What would be the best way to let them know?

[Ross Carlson]

5 minutes ago, Roger Gantner said:

We need to notify them about this; or are they aware?

I'm quite sure VATSIM is aware of how their network protocol works. 

 

14 minutes ago, Nico Massi said:

thanks a lot for your reply. is it possible to make a request to vatsim to add the engine power level?

You certainly could ... contact the appropriate member of the BoG.

[Nico Massi]

unfortunately I have no idea how to finde out who is the appropiate member of BoG regarding this topic 😞

[Roger Gantner]

33 minutes ago, Ross Carlson said:

I'm quite sure VATSIM is aware of how their network protocol works. 

That's NOT what I meant.. the question is if they are aware that this limitation has become an issue.

[Roger Gantner]

Perhaps opening a support ticket is a way to be heard.

https://support.vatsim.net/open.php

[Ross Carlson]

2 hours ago, Nico Massi said:

unfortunately I have no idea how to finde out who is the appropiate member of BoG regarding this topic 😞

https://vatsim.net/docs/staff/bog

Just pick the one that seems most correct for a technical issue such as this. I would say "Vice President, Technology" is a solid bet.

[Nico Massi]

ok thank you. Will make a request.

[Nico Massi]

I made the following request:

 

Dear Mr. Cianfarani

 

The recently introduced FSLTL models for MSFS 2020 are coming along with very nice sound effects. Unfortunately the N1 and N2 variables from the user planes are not supported by Vatsim and therefore the users plane have always a value of 80 which generates unrealistic sound.  I would like to ask if this two variables could be supported from Vatsim in the future? I thank you in advance for considering to implement this two variables.

 

The topic was also discussed in the vPilot forum: Feature Request: Include the N1 and N2 variables from the user planes in vPilot - vPilot - VATSIM Community

 

For your feedback I thank you in advance.

 

Yours sincerely

[Roger Gantner]

Wouldnt just one variable be enough? N2, for example? Or does it need two.

[Marcel Verheydt]

On 10/23/2022 at 11:56 AM, Roger Gantner said:

Wouldnt just one variable be enough? N2, for example? Or does it need two.

FSLTL sounds are driven by the N2 % value. The buzz saw sound uses % N1 though. 

Edited October 24, 2022 at 04:27 PM by Marcel Verheydt

[Matisse VanWezer]

If this somehow works, please also ask for

IAS, MACH, Selected FL

- All the controllers

On 10/23/2022 at 11:55 AM, Nico Massi said:

I made the following request:

 

Dear Mr. Cianfarani

 

The recently introduced FSLTL models for MSFS 2020 are coming along with very nice sound effects. Unfortunately the N1 and N2 variables from the user planes are not supported by Vatsim and therefore the users plane have always a value of 80 which generates unrealistic sound.  I would like to ask if this two variables could be supported from Vatsim in the future? I thank you in advance for considering to implement this two variables.

 

The topic was also discussed in the vPilot forum: Feature Request: Include the N1 and N2 variables from the user planes in vPilot - vPilot - VATSIM Community

 

For your feedback I thank you in advance.

 

Yours sincerely

 

[Roger Gantner]

On 10/24/2022 at 6:57 PM, Matisse VanWezer said:

If this somehow works, please also ask for

IAS, MACH, Selected FL

- All the controllers

 

Open a support ticket, and let them know. Let all your controller buddies know.

 

Also, I've got a reply from VATSIM support regarding including N1 and N2 variables:
 

Quote

Thank you for the feedback. I've forwarded this to the team

So... yea.. who knows? It would only make sense to implement this feature.

[Roger Gantner]

Any update on this?

Has anyone received a proper reply?

 

[Akil Gunn]

  

On 10/29/2022 at 2:59 AM, Roger Gantner said:

Open a support ticket, and let them know. Let all your controller buddies know.

 

Also, I've got a reply from VATSIM support regarding including N1 and N2 variables:
 

So... yea.. who knows? It would only make sense to implement this feature.

I hope they add it this year.

Edited January 5, 2023 at 04:37 AM by Akil Gunn

[Matisse VanWezer]

On 12/31/2022 at 3:21 PM, Roger Gantner said:

Any update on this?

Has anyone received a proper reply?

 

Nope but we took matters into our own hands and created a public plugin to calculate pilots Mach and IAS. It's not perfect but it's better than nothing. Even more important for pilots to use actual, real time weather.

MorpheusXAUT/IASsure: I assure IAS  

 

ps: if there is anyone, anywhere with a valid API key for data sources such as windy, that vACCs would be allowed to use... we can improve accuracy slightly and make setting the plugin up more easy. Currently accuracy is roughly 5KT, or M0.01 for our implementation. Such key we can probably bring it down to 1KT. (Using the plugin with Sweatbox and weather turned off yields such accuracies).

Edited January 5, 2023 at 09:37 AM by Matisse VanWezer