who owns khsv????

[Edward Mosier 902482]

What is up with khsv??

Flew from ellx to khsv today. All went well until my decent into khsv, ztl tried to hand me off to zme, but he did not want me. He finally took me, but he did not seem to happy.

I was very disapointed with the final minutes of this long flight.

On servinfo khsv looks like it is in both centers.

I could use some clarification on this airport as it is one my va uses from time to time. Next time I will disconect at tod so not to annoy any controler.

[Scott Johnston 890281]

ZME has the airspace FL230 and below. The reason the Memphis controller was mad, is because per the ZME/ZTL LOA, the ZTL controller should have you at 8000 by the Low Altitude Boundary. But of course, some controllers don't read LOA's...

 

So to answer your question, ZME (Memphis) "owns" HSV.

Edited February 26, 2007 at 02:36 AM by Guest

[Aaron Flodin 878523]

because per the ZME/ZTL LOA, the ZTL controller should have you at 8000 by the Low Altitude Boundary

 

Nothin like the ole chop and drop eh

[Timothy Boger 942264]

Ah....I hate those airports. ATW is even worse... ATW_TWR is a position that would be covered by ZAU but APP/DEP is handled by ZMP. Try that one on for size.

[Edward Mosier 902482]

Well, Ok, in all fairness to the controlers, at about 30 miles or so before my tod, the ztl controler went offline, or controlers changed, because after a few minutes a new contorler came on. He asked me to contact him on his frq. I contacted him, and he gave me radar contact. By now he is busy with other planes, and I am well pasted tod. I request decent from him since khsv has no star. He gives me a decent to fl240. At fl240 I am about 20 miles from the airport. The contoler comes on and says he is having problems handing me off to zme .A couple more minutes later, he tells me now to decent to 8,000 and go to zme.

Well anyway, got the old bird down in very gusty conditions, but it was not the most pleasent moment on vatsim, but I can understand it from the controlers side also.

I have always enjoyed flying in atlanta airspace and katl airport. zme has always been pleasant when flying through. Good service from both, this was just one of those things I did not expect.

Thanx for the replies to this post.

[Robert Ogden 985378]

Hey there Ed! I was MEM CTR when you came in and I apologize if my anger at the I3 who didn't know the LOAs came across on freq to you. I'd actually love to see more aircraft coming into KHSV, though I certainly hope their experience goes better than yours!

 

Heres to crossing the runway threshold at FL240!

[James David Perry 975084]

[Alan Hensley 950569]

ZME has the airspace below FL230.

 

Memphis Center owns FLIGHT LEVEL 230 AND below. Sorry for any confusion

 

Alan Hensley

Training Adminstrator

Memphis Center

[Chris McGee]

I will say, from my controlling days with ZID. Atlanta has some problems reading those dang LOA's But, when you have the traffic Atlanta does. Just might have to give that center controller a bit of a break.

[Kyle Steever 810905]

Traffic handling is not the issue, it's the lack of attention to training I would say. I started my controlling career at ZMP. alongside you Chris. ZAU has never had an issue with the LOA's between ZMP or ZID on a regular basis. I've talked to multiple people from the surrounding artcc's of ZAU, with no consistent issues. KZAU is one of the busiest ARTCC's in the entire VATSIM world, if not THE busiest, PERIOD. Even when they don't have events going on, they are still running several arrivals and departures per hour, all hours of the day. The issue at hand is not who is at fault. It doesn't matter who is at fault, it is WHY they are at fault. Someone, somewhere along the line forgot to enforce the most basic rules about controlling, LOAs. Teamwork is imperative in this controlling world, whether internal or external. Petty quarreling will resolve nothing. It's time that we started to fix the problem and not just stand around with our thumb up our rears wondering what to do about it...

[Mark J Angstadt 814878]

Chris,

 

As Kyle pointed out, The point of the matter is, the ZTL controller wasn't doing his job 100%, 25% won't cut it, 50% won't do it either, as long as the problem is understood, accepted, and corrected then we all will be happy campers.

[Edward Mosier 902482]

My post was not out to blame or critisize any controler here.

As stated above, in my other post, the new atlanta controler had just come on line and was fairly busy with other pilots at the time, so I probably just fell through the cracks here, so to speak.

Servinfo, states that khsv, is owned by atlanta center, so I was expecting atlanta to vector me in, but now I see it is different for that airport and next time I will know what to expect.

If I had known at the time about the airspace differences, I would have requested a holding decent pattern to 8000, it indeed that was possible.

I have had that particular atlanta center controler in the past ( I will not say his name here), and have had excellent service from him.

[Travis Faudree 821145]

Just another reason this I3 shouldn't be an I3.

[Kyle Steever 810905]

If I had known at the time about the airspace differences, I would have requested a holding decent pattern to 8000, it indeed that was possible.

 

The controller from memphis and myself went over these for 2 hours the other day, using your case as an example. We don't like doing it, but still like to know as a "just in case" .

[Chris McGee]

*Steps Back A Few Feet*

[Stephen Keskitalo 977981]

I totally pwnzored KHSV the other night.

 

BTW,

 

Owner: HUNTSVILLE MADISON COUNTY

P O BOX 20008

HUNTSVILLE, AL 35824

Phone 256-772-9395

AIRPORT AUTHORITY

EXTN 260.

[Brandon Grchan 925585]

I totally pwnzored KHSV the other night.

 

BTW,

 

Owner: HUNTSVILLE MADISON COUNTY

P O BOX 20008

HUNTSVILLE, AL 35824

Phone 256-772-9395

AIRPORT AUTHORITY

EXTN 260.

 

lol

 

lollercoaster

[Thomas Akins 955461]

Any way to listen to Live ATC at KHSV?

 

Abosultely.

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