Vatsim London Uk Sub-Division

[Robbie Garrett]

I've been wanting to do something with the flight sim world for a long time now and i have had a real good idea as i want to spend a bit of money and get a site and create lot's of stuff.

 

Im good and can create websites from scratch ive been working on a site for a while now and i have not decided what to do next with development terms and i do not want my own va just yet for vatsim but i have an idea of a fantastic idea that a young man would love to do as i am and im very enthusiastic to set up the London UK Sub-division, i will provide the site and hosting what i will decide with my mum if i can get the go-ahead for this fantastic idea.

 

The UK Division is one of the busiest and all due respect to the owners of the uk-division, what im proposing to do is not what many people will do is create proffesional charts and clickable maps for the airspace with any London name.

E.g EGTT or EGLL.

 

All i want to do is create charts and much more like easy navigation, forum's, community,iframes to the vatsim so users can quickly sign up,pilot training & ATC training by proper Vatsim ATC controllers, all it is is taking the pressure off of the vatsim-uk so they can concentrate on more stuff as London is a well respected area and i have full knowledge that it's the best and busiest airport in the uk on vatsim.

 

All im requesting is not much not much at all all under vatsim rules.

Each and every airport will have easy navigation links so that people can easy navigate and full charts and information provided, Including how to hold at ockham for example or detailed STID'S or arrival paterns.

Each Airport will have detailed statistics and a dedicated page to that airport.

Also how to vector traffic into the busy heathrow much more and stuff like that.

 

I also like to organize big events what im real good at so i was perhaps thinking a 4 to 6 hr Heathrow real operation's event or maybe a Real operations London event.

 

Who know's

 

Please tell me what you think?

[Norman Blackburn]

Robbie,

 

Have you touched base with the guys at VATSIM UK about this? Whilst there wont be a Sub Division (There is a London FIR/ARTCC already) I'm sure the guys at VATSIM UK would be grateful of your input.

[Simon Irvine]

Robbie

 

Firstly thanks for taking the time to post some of your ideas. As Norman has said we wont have a London sub division. Having said said that please feel free to email me with some of your ideas and i will see if i can take any of them forward.

 

Regards

[Robbie Garrett]

Hmm i wonder what i could do then as im intrested in only creating a sub-division, but im in contact with first choice airways over a possible first choice va with permission.

[Ruth McTighe 824054]

Robbie, we really appreciate your enthusiasm. However you have only been a member for three days and you really need to spend some time on VATSIM first to find out how it all works and what is needed. There already is a separate area for London - it's called the Capital Regional Training scheme, so a London Subdivision would be pointless. VATSIM-UK already has an excellent website, so there's not much point in doing what has already been done. But the webteam are always looking for people to help with the bits that aren't finished yet.

 

Or you can do what I did and set up a website of your own with your own ideas e.g. the clickable maps. I was responsible for the first website for the Essex controllers, and I know it was widely used until the VATSIM-UK site was more developed. If it's good people will start using it and things will grow from there. You don't need a special subdivision, just go ahead and create a website and see what happens.

 

You might also like to look at the other specialist websites e.g. the South East RTS site to see what they have done.

 

Ruth

[Robbie Garrett]

What about a vatsim EGLL and EGKK site they are my favourites.

 

Vatsim EGLL & Vatsim EGKK

[Ruth McTighe 824054]

You really need to go and look at what has already been done, both on the VATSIM-UK site and elsewhere. For example EGKK is covered by the excellent SE RTS site at http://www.serts.co.uk/

 

Ruth

[Alan Sutherland]

Robbie,

 

As has already been indicated I look after Heathrow along with other airports in the Capital RTS. I am always looking for people to help me and the RTS develop. Send me an e-mail or private message with your e-mail address and we could have a dicussion on the ideas you have,

 

Thanks

Alan

[Robbie Garrett]

Robbie,

 

As has already been indicated I look after Heathrow along with other airports in the Capital RTS. I am always looking for people to help me and the RTS develop. Send me an e-mail or private message with your e-mail address and we could have a dicussion on the ideas you have,

 

Thanks

Alan

Like a Donation i will create this very cool site.

 

Yeah i have been thinking all day about what you have said i will if you want get us a site up and running after i have spoken to the mother, about it and i will create a site for the Capital RTS

 

Big task but i will create chart's for Each and every London Airport.

 

London Heathrow, London City,Farnborough,Biggin,Gatwick,Stansted,Luton & and airport with a london name.

In this list here is an example of what i will create as you see that this is EGLL i will do this for every airport and make it an open source. I will create clickable area charts airport Information,Live weather feeds for each airport and London it's self.

 

Real Flight tracking links Real-world to EGLL,EGSS,EGKK Only and Vatsim Live for these airport's However i need you,r permission and Vatsim-Uk to do this. However you will have full control as you are the Capital-RTS manager but i will make it the best FIR/RTS in the vatsim world, to much enthusiasm NO i want to do this for certain.

 

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Edited September 13, 2007 at 05:37 PM by Guest

[Tim Krajcar]

Robbie,

 

I am not a VATSIM-UK member or staff so I don't speak for them.

 

Actions speak louder than words.

 

You would get a much more favorable response if you had any examples of these charts made to show.

Why not work on one or two to make sure you can do it before making grandiose promises?

[Wycliffe Barrett]

Hi Robbie

 

Your enthusiasm is wonderful to behold, but you seem to be in a rush to reinvent the wheel as many of your ideas have already been done in one way or another.

 

As making clickable charts etc that is one heck of a task and at the present time we can download charst from AIS or from Navigraph.

 

As Ruth said perhaps your energies could be better utilised if you where to concentarte on one area of vaviation.

 

I'm a member of the SWRTS and have spent sometime in developing my own website, but only for EGFF. It's very specific but I take great pleasure fromknowing that pilots have a look now and again and can get their charts etc via my site.

 

A bit of friendly advice, slow down, think hard about what you wouldlike to do, something original and then pour you heart and soul into it.

 

Also take up some of th eoffers that have been made to you for help. VATSIM is incredibly addictive, flying controlling and contributing to the community can be all consuming.

 

Blue Skies.

[Robbie Garrett]

I mean if you look at the real AIS charts i could if i sat there do 4 charts per day or less it's not much and like Serts has a good website and this is just me wanting something that i would love to do.

 

Capital ATS is my home and there forever i love EGLL and all the other airport's.

 

How could i not put my heart and soul into this.

 

I have been createing a template and i do not know what to do with it and this is something that could be usefull as AIS is Popular.

[Luke Harvest 929620]

There's already SERTS doing a fantastic job with LGW.

There's already Capital doing a fantastic job with LHR.

We have AIS which covers pretty much every single chart for every single airport in the UK.

[Robbie Garrett]

Maybe i could just use ais and that i should use them as these chart's could take a long time to create until that is done.

[Robbie Garrett]

There's already SERTS doing a fantastic job with LGW.

There's already Capital doing a fantastic job with LHR.

We have AIS which covers pretty much every single chart for every single airport in the UK.

 

As said by Luke Harvest i would probaly use the AIS Charts by i will create this site for capital rts with no problems as long as i do not need to create the charts and just use the real world charts then i will just use them.

 

This could save tons of time.

[Ruth McTighe 824054]

Hold on, hold on, Robbie. The charts are published in the AIS. They are copyright - no-one is allowed to reproduce them on any other website.

 

I would suggest you go ahead and make a sample website so the VATSIM-UK guys can see what you are capable of. You don't need their permission for that as long as you don't use any of their copyright stuff. But no-one is going to support you if all you do is keep posting on here instead of getting on and doing something. And is this going to be the first website you have ever made or have you done a website before that you can show us?

 

If you can't think of a useful way of using your template, then you haven't learnt enough about VATSIM. You need to start logging on and learning to fly and control, and how the whole VATSIM organisation works.

 

Ruth

[Robbie Garrett]

Yes i know of that but what i said instead of creating my own i will put link's to the site to each chart.

[Daniel Doorgakant]

The site requires log in, and after that you have access to all the charts related to the UK. So why stick in a middle man.

[Graham Young 814551]

Is this real? I can't help but think that there is something amiss here....

 

Like others have said Robbie, your enthusiasm cannot be faltered but are you actually listening to what the other guys and gal are saying?

 

Graham

[Robbie Garrett]

Okey is it possible to do exactley this for this airport and so on:Like this for example on the gatwick page it gives a link to the chart's

http://serts.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=42&Itemid=54

 

I will also post a picture up of the Site how it is going and the awnser is i have had 6 sites.

 

I have not got one anymore, i can make the site php and stuff like that if i can get a basic template and show a screen on here that might do the trick.

 

Also just wanting to ask has anyone seen the capital rts mananger.

[Paul O'Donnell 969350]

Also just wanting to ask has anyone seen the capital rts mananger.

I've said it a few times already. You might be best looking at the Vatsim-UK forum from time to time. A few people hardly check the vatsim.net forum as its worldwide. They prefer to just check the vatsim-UK forum.

 

http://www.vatsim-uk.org/forum

 

Capital RTS has its own section, if you scroll down you will see it amongst the other RTS sections of the forum.

 

 

All the best

[Robbie Garrett]

Yes i have sent him an email aswell i need to get in touch with him about giving capital rts a whole site.

 

Im so kind

[Bill Casey]

Hi Robbie

 

It's incredible how you've managed to accomeulate 3 Vatsim IDs in such a short time - 1001243, 1018397 and 1026501. Are you sure you need all 3?

[Jim Karn 850752]

Cue 'Dragnet' theme.....

[Robbie Garrett]

Hi Robbie

 

It's incredible how you've managed to accomeulate 3 Vatsim IDs in such a short time - 1001243, 1018397 and 1026501. Are you sure you need all 3?

 

How weired yeah i have had problems with those accounts and i need to get them deleted.

 

I want to keep 1026501

 

and get rid of ther other's that was very much that i could not connect simulator problems and big list's and i forgot the p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]word's for them.