Jon Standley 845310 Posted August 13, 2008 at 02:19 AM Posted August 13, 2008 at 02:19 AM The VATUSA Reference Material is finally being revamped and updated to coincide with current regulations and practices currently being used. This process also includes creating new instructional guides in various forms for enhanced student success. During this process, some of the Reference Material will be offline. I am releasing a revised Basic Study Guide for the VATUSA Basic Controller Exam until the new material is complete. I apologize for any inconvenience this may cause however the end product will be beneficial as this is an update that has been long overdue. If you have any questions, comments or suggestions, feel free to email me at [email protected] Jon Standley Private Pilot ASEL/AMEL/IFR/LTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Morris 920567 Posted August 13, 2008 at 02:44 AM Posted August 13, 2008 at 02:44 AM Was it necessary to take the existing content down while the new content is still under development? The development of new things has a way of taking longer than you expect. http://www.execjetva.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Standley 845310 Posted August 13, 2008 at 04:16 AM Author Posted August 13, 2008 at 04:16 AM The current material was providing inaccurate information that did not correspond with the new VATUSA tests that have been released. Jon Standley Private Pilot ASEL/AMEL/IFR/LTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Morris 920567 Posted August 13, 2008 at 12:20 PM Posted August 13, 2008 at 12:20 PM Ahh, so you got the cart ahead of the horse. Do we have a time frame for getting things back on track? http://www.execjetva.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Standley 845310 Posted August 13, 2008 at 05:51 PM Author Posted August 13, 2008 at 05:51 PM I will have an estimate time frame in the next couple of days Jon Standley Private Pilot ASEL/AMEL/IFR/LTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Wiedmeier 954546 Posted August 13, 2008 at 11:43 PM Posted August 13, 2008 at 11:43 PM I don't want to add flame to the fire, but... what are we supposed to use? If I have new students how/where do we start with them? Is there an alternate set of docs by any chance? Garrett Wiedmeier ZSE ATM http://www.seaartcc.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Sculley-Beaman Posted August 14, 2008 at 12:59 AM Posted August 14, 2008 at 12:59 AM I suggest using your instructor/mentor. Besides, ARTCCs provide a great deal of training material in addition to VATUSA's...I've actually never needed to use VATUSA's materials, my guys have always been all over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrett Wiedmeier 954546 Posted August 14, 2008 at 01:06 AM Posted August 14, 2008 at 01:06 AM I suggest using your instructor/mentor. Besides, ARTCCs provide a great deal of training material in addition to VATUSA's...I've actually never needed to use VATUSA's materials, my guys have always been all over it I am a mentor -- sorry, probably should have said that. We do have lots of materials indeed, but we always also reference the VATUSA training guides as well. It was kind of embarr[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ing to point a potential student to a "good resource to get started" and it's not there... plus our site has links to these web pages that appear good (the header & footer & navigation appears) but are blank otherwise -- it took me around 5-10 minutes to figure out it wasn't my computer or web browser and that the content really wasn't there. Perhaps instead of it just being blank we can add a small note that revisions are in progress? Garrett Wiedmeier ZSE ATM http://www.seaartcc.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Lopez 883899 Posted August 14, 2008 at 08:34 AM Posted August 14, 2008 at 08:34 AM I suggest using your instructor/mentor. Besides, ARTCCs provide a great deal of training material in addition to VATUSA's...I've actually never needed to use VATUSA's materials, my guys have always been all over it I am a mentor -- sorry, probably should have said that. We do have lots of materials indeed, but we always also reference the VATUSA training guides as well. It was kind of embarr[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ing to point a potential student to a "good resource to get started" and it's not there... plus our site has links to these web pages that appear good (the header & footer & navigation appears) but are blank otherwise -- it took me around 5-10 minutes to figure out it wasn't my computer or web browser and that the content really wasn't there. Perhaps instead of it just being blank we can add a small note that revisions are in progress? Well that would be what would make sense and.... The thoughts and/or words or any general things that are expressed above are not a direct reflection of the views of the actual poster myself, Rey Lopez, and should be disregarded and left unread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Standley 845310 Posted August 14, 2008 at 09:38 PM Author Posted August 14, 2008 at 09:38 PM And as I said between tonight and tomorrow night I will have a suppliment of the Basic Guide on the website for download. It will allow new students to get started. Jon Standley Private Pilot ASEL/AMEL/IFR/LTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Clarke 931991 Posted August 17, 2008 at 03:50 PM Posted August 17, 2008 at 03:50 PM Jon: any idea when even the basic will be up..when I go to the website, the header appears but nothing below. Can our students still take the tests, or have they changed also... Scott Clarke ATM ZLC ARTCC Scott Clarke Air Traffic Manager ZLC ARTCC (Salt Lake) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Morris 920567 Posted August 21, 2008 at 02:03 PM Posted August 21, 2008 at 02:03 PM Can we put the old material back up? It may not have totally jived with the testing, but it's better than blank pages. This is silly. http://www.execjetva.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Rutila 974112 Posted August 21, 2008 at 09:53 PM Posted August 21, 2008 at 09:53 PM You can download them from other ARTCCs if you'd like. Denver has them. denartcc.org --> Training --> Docomeents. I know it might be a little weird, but if you absolutely positively need them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Gaber 1024819 Posted August 21, 2008 at 10:26 PM Posted August 21, 2008 at 10:26 PM Now that Jon stepped down, are we going to have to wait longer for this material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Sculley-Beaman Posted August 21, 2008 at 11:09 PM Posted August 21, 2008 at 11:09 PM Now that Jon stepped down, are we going to have to wait longer for this material? I'd put money on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Gaber 1024819 Posted August 21, 2008 at 11:13 PM Posted August 21, 2008 at 11:13 PM Now that Jon stepped down, are we going to have to wait longer for this material? I'd put money on it Great. Just what a new controller needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Millsaps 830104 Posted August 21, 2008 at 11:54 PM Posted August 21, 2008 at 11:54 PM Now that Jon stepped down, are we going to have to wait longer for this material? I'd put money on it You would lose... Gary Millsaps VATUSA1 "I knew all the rules but the rules did not know me... guaranteed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bart Youngblood 1049300 Posted August 22, 2008 at 12:20 AM Posted August 22, 2008 at 12:20 AM You can download them from other ARTCCs if you'd like. Denver has them. denartcc.org --> Training --> Docomeents. I know it might be a little weird, but if you absolutely positively need them... Thanks...even if there are some inaccuracies in it, it is better than nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Orr 1072435 Posted August 22, 2008 at 05:11 PM Posted August 22, 2008 at 05:11 PM How many inaccuracies are we talking here? I mean, could someone list off a few of the changes, cause I'm really anxious to get started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillon Brown 1068778 Posted August 23, 2008 at 09:38 PM Posted August 23, 2008 at 09:38 PM when is the material suppose to be done ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Millsaps 830104 Posted August 24, 2008 at 03:04 AM Posted August 24, 2008 at 03:04 AM All, The new material has been posted to the VATUSA Training area located here: http://www.vatusa.net/training/reference.html The old reference material has also been re-posted to hold over until the additional new modules have been completed. They will be announced as they are released. Thanks for your patience... Gary Millsaps VATUSA1 "I knew all the rules but the rules did not know me... guaranteed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin A. Martin Posted August 24, 2008 at 03:21 AM Posted August 24, 2008 at 03:21 AM Thanks Gary! BTW, I love the pretty pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Sculley-Beaman Posted August 24, 2008 at 04:30 AM Posted August 24, 2008 at 04:30 AM All, The new material has been posted to the VATUSA Training area located here: http://www.vatusa.net/training/reference.html The old reference material has also been re-posted to hold over until the additional new modules have been completed. They will be announced as they are released. Thanks for your patience... Glad I was wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Rutila 974112 Posted August 24, 2008 at 12:57 PM Posted August 24, 2008 at 12:57 PM Very nice job with the BATC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bailey 969331 Posted August 24, 2008 at 07:20 PM Posted August 24, 2008 at 07:20 PM Excellent work, I look forward to seeing the rest Alex Bailey ZMA I-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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