Matthew Gunn 964355 Posted October 5, 2008 at 01:40 PM Posted October 5, 2008 at 01:40 PM It would be really handy if when mentoring enroute you can set up the sector you are watching without having to set the primary frequency (which otherwise mucks up the controller list IDs for example). Not sure how this could be achieved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan Boerner 945550 Posted October 5, 2008 at 02:51 PM Posted October 5, 2008 at 02:51 PM Hm, theoretically you could connect into the trainee's session via his proxy, which would be the perfect mentoring view. Problem in most cases will be, that if the trainee is sitting behind a router, connecting from the outside might be impossible. But I would give this a try, as it will be the best mentoring view you can get, including everything the trainee does. Besides that, I don't think it is possible currently, because sector dependencies are calculated based on the primary frequencies, so without one, you can't [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ume control over a sector. Maybe some kind of override setting would be possible so simulate an active station without using a real primary frequency. Stephan Boerner VATEUD - ATC Training Director EuroScope Board of Designers | GVCCS Beta Tester EuroScope Quick Start Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Blackburn Posted October 5, 2008 at 06:36 PM Posted October 5, 2008 at 06:36 PM Additionally having both the student and mentor with a primary frequency can cause upset to the pilot clients. If the mentor is centred closer to pilot than the student then the pilot will be tuned to the mentor's voice room. Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Csernak Posted October 11, 2008 at 11:11 AM Posted October 11, 2008 at 11:11 AM Matthew, You can use the "Sector ownership setup" dialog to manually [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ign the sectors to yourself. In this way you will see it as your sectors without having to set up a correct callsign/primary frequency pair. Gergely. EuroScope developer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan Boerner 945550 Posted October 11, 2008 at 02:16 PM Posted October 11, 2008 at 02:16 PM Hm, Gergely, I thought about that too, but that would only be possible if the mentor uses a station/callsign defined in the ESE, which is usally not the case. But maybe You can add an additional station "myself" in the sector ownership setup. Until that would be implemented, a workaround might be to define mentoring stations in the ESE. Stephan Boerner VATEUD - ATC Training Director EuroScope Board of Designers | GVCCS Beta Tester EuroScope Quick Start Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Csernak Posted October 15, 2008 at 06:52 PM Posted October 15, 2008 at 06:52 PM Stephan, Negative. If you manually [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ign the sectors then your login callsign and frequency does not matter. Gergely. EuroScope developer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan Boerner 945550 Posted October 15, 2008 at 07:34 PM Posted October 15, 2008 at 07:34 PM And how should I do that? In the manual sector ownership dialog, I have only the positions from the ESE file in the drop down list, so I can [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ign those sectors to any of those stations, but not to myself, if I have no primary frequency matching with that list. I don't see an option to [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ign it to myself. Just tried it, and found no way to do that. Stephan Boerner VATEUD - ATC Training Director EuroScope Board of Designers | GVCCS Beta Tester EuroScope Quick Start Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Csernak Posted October 19, 2008 at 07:12 PM Posted October 19, 2008 at 07:12 PM Stephan, You are right. I do not know why it is developed in this way Gergely. EuroScope developer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Gunn 964355 Posted December 31, 2008 at 12:56 PM Author Posted December 31, 2008 at 12:56 PM Thanks for the suggestions. Perhaps if I set an observer position up in the ese with the default frequency that would allow me to select it in the ownership structure - i will give it a go. I like the idea of connecting through proxy to the student but can see it might be difficult. Related to this is that I use the logging system when mentoring to record the session for playback - however although I get transmissions on text recorded I don't get the student voice transmissions because they are not being transmitted by me! Is there a way to do this - it could be quite useful for review purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergely Csernak Posted January 1, 2009 at 06:38 PM Posted January 1, 2009 at 06:38 PM Matthew, The LOG file contains all voices that are sent or received on the primary frequency. So if you set up your voice to have the same primary frequency, then the student voice must be recorded too. Gergely. EuroScope developer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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