- Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:42 pm
John Kirk 1294770 wrote:
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 wrote:
so you screwed up, you learned something right? thats what the network is about, learning. not screwing up and being told to go offline
Yes, fair enough he messed up but.... Your saying "Thats what the network is about" not really. If Vatsim was just a network full of pilots who dont know what there doing and not following instructions (Their are a a few) then it makes it no fun for other pilots and for the controllers. I think you are supposed to have a certain level of knowledge and understanding on how to use the network before you just jump on and use it.
Agreed, but are you saying that mistakes cannot be made? Even the most competent VATSIM pilot, thousands of hours under their belt and the highest pilot rating available can have an issue or make a mistake. They do it in the real world; we are not aircraft FMCs, we are human and we do make mistakes! We aren't performing in a show or to a world stage, we are all here having fun. Whilst I agree that everyone should have a certain level of competency before attempting something, chasticing a pilot (or controller, for that matter) on the network for making a silly mistake is not the way, I feel.
If we had a VATSIM full of those that knew what they were doing 100%, the entry requirements to the network would be huge
. We want new blood, the same as we want the old guard, otherwise things will stagnate and become dull very rapidly. Newbies who make mistakes, screw up and learn from them are just as welcome on the network as that member for 10 years who flies perfect SIDs by hand and you're 99% sure flies for British Airways real-world...
Not everyone wants
to learn though, but that kind of user doesn't last very long. They will happily repeat back their departure clearence and then takeoff and climb in a completely different direction, despite the controller yelling at them. That isn't the kind of user we need, but it's a difficult distinction between that and the scared newbie at first glance.
jonathan lambert 1347014 wrote:I wish to say sorry to the London control who was online at 18.00 hours tonight. I had been given a LAM1X departure at EGKK . This meant a change from my flight plan. I chose the departure in the CDU and rentered my v speeds.. Took off and was passed onto London control . I had activated the Auto pilot but had not checked the first leg of the departure. Poor guy screamed at me to turn right . I realised the LAM1X was not in the legs page , instead I was flying direct to LAM .
I was mortified at my error and disconnected immediately.
My apologies to anyone who was online at the time
I'm sorry you had a bad time of it. Please don't feel disheartened - everyone (and I mean everyone
) screws up. You don't deserve to be given an earfull because of it; despite being in charge of a virtual aircraft with virtual passengers and flying over a virtual town/city, this controllers virtual professionalism was very much absent. If you did that real world you would not have had such a yelling at - so I do struggle to understand why you did here. It's obvious from your post (to me, anyway) that you didn't intend or mean to cause disruption, so that says you're a decent chap who I daresay would be welcome to try again.
If you are reasonably new to VATSIM and the sim in general, you may want to practice at smaller regional fields and avoid the TMA until you're confident in your ability (or you've regained some confidence after your EGKK experience). I frequently fly new aircraft, new procedure types and practice hand-flying without the FMC at smaller airfields in smaller aircraft. It's very rewarding and great at honing the ol' brain cell. Might be an idea?