- Fri Apr 28, 2017 7:06 pm
After having read the JetCareers Forum Discussion linked above it's still confusing to me somewhat. Performing a hold off any VOR or any fix on an Departure, Arrival, or Approach Chart is easy-peasy for me. The depiction on the chart leaves no doubt in my mind the direction inbound to the holding fix, the type of entry I need to make, the length of the inbound and outbound legs, the turns, etc.
Performing one while enroute at a random fix is where the confusion arises for me. If I'm told to hold North of a fix (waypoint , NDB, or VOR) that's easy. I know which area in the airspace is North of a fix. Start throwing in tracks, radials, bearings, and turns and I think, even to the professional ATCOs in the JetCareers discussion, there is the potential for confusion in both the pilot and the ATCO.
If I am told to hold North of fix ABC (not a VOR) on a track, heading, or course of 360 inbound to the fix there is no way I will be North of the fix. If I'm told on a Bearing it's even more confusing because the JetCareers discussion specifically said "Bearing" can mean to or from. Also, bearing for the pilot is completely different from bearing for the fix, unless bearing for a pilot always means "to" and bearing for a fix always means "from". Radials is a little easier to visualize because, I believe, they are always "from".
So, if you want me to hold North of ABC on a Bearing, Heading, Radial, Course, or Track of 360 degrees, that 360 degrees has got to be the outbound leg of the hold, doesn't it, in order for me to stay North of the fix? Everything else is easy enough to deduce. I'll fly right turns unless you tell me to turn left or the chart shows a hold racetrack indicating left. I'll fly 1 minute legs unless you tell me otherwise. I'll fly at my current altitude (or the one on the chart if specified) unless you tell me otherwise. I'll fly at my current speed (or the one on the chart if specified) unless you tell me otherwise.
Randy Tyndall - KBOIZLA I-11/vACC Portugal P4“A ship is always safe in the harbor. But that’s not why they build ships” --Michael Bevington ID 814931, Former VATSIM Board of Governors Vice President of Pilot Training