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By Evgeny Vygornitsky 862634
#467375 Guys, thanks for such a quick response.
Nevertheless as there is almost no traffic there, we can discuss and invite your controllers to provide ATC in Caucasus countries "on mutually beneficial basis" :) .
By Tim Wong 1179662
#467376
Daniel Conrad 1091256 wrote:Hi Tim, thats not correct. Slovenia is still Open Sky again since Philipp Edlich resigned as Director.

Really? Then it's my fault because I saw Phillip signed-in and observing as ACCSLO1 yesterday. So, I've thought that he continues to realise the Slovenian vACC.

Daniel Conrad 1091256 wrote:The information on the VATEUD website must be updated. thx for the hint.

No need say thank-you. I was only informing myself :D
By Daniel Conrad 1091256
#467377 @Evgeny: Good idea!!

@Tim: hmm. My last information was, that Philipp resigned as Director and still closed VACC-Slovenia. Maybe there are changes on this topic i wasn´t informed; on the VATEUD board i found nothing.
Will discuss it with the division staff.
By Philipp Edlich 1081694
#467403
Daniel Conrad 1091256 wrote:@Tim: hmm. My last information was, that Philipp resigned as Director and still closed VACC-Slovenia. Maybe there are changes on this topic i wasn´t informed; on the VATEUD board i found nothing.
Will discuss it with the division staff.

Tim is correct, VATEUD vACC Support dragged me out of retirement. We are not making a lot of noise yet, but still waters run deep.
By Andreas Dermitzakis 1210214
#467493 Hello everyone,

As the vACC Support Group has been developed and working on the unofficial vacc's I would like to ask for your patience regarding this.We will come up with an official statement regarding both the open skies project and the unofficial vACC's that are part of it.

Yours,
Andreas Dermitzakis,
VATEUD vACC Support Manager
By Filip Markoski 1096476
#467910 Any new controller that can help increasing activity within Skopje FIR is more then welcome. Also we are accepting members that can help us in the background improving our vACC by taking staff position (weather it would be acting or full member). Just for information we are currently running applications for Event Manager. More information... http://macvacc.org/forum/index.php?topic=132.0

Feel free to drop lines at [email protected]
By Irakli Urushadze 1219652
#481597 Hello, I hope I am posting in correct topic.

As I noted that Georgian airspace (UGGG) in VATSIM network is under control of RU-WRC (Russia western control), but from 2014 Georgian airspace in under Eurocotrol space. (please see https://www.eurocontrol.int/articles/me ... sion-dates and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocontrol ). Can you please tell me what should be done to change Georgian airspace (UGGG) from Russia western control to Eurocontrol south.

Also I failed to find Georgia in country lists at http://www.vateud.net/countries.

Thank you.
By Evgeny Vygornitsky 862634
#481611
Irakli Urushadze 1219652 wrote:As I noted that Georgian airspace (UGGG) in VATSIM network is under control of RU-WRC (Russia western control), but from 2014 Georgian airspace in under Eurocotrol space. (please see https://www.eurocontrol.int/articles/me ... sion-dates and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocontrol ). Can you please tell me what should be done to change Georgian airspace (UGGG) from Russia western control to Eurocontrol south.

In VATSIM network Georgia is NOT under Russia Western Control officially but still can be controlled by any European controller.
See also:
RU-WRC|Western Russia Control|UMMV,UUWV,URRV,UWWW,UWOO,UWUU,UWKD

VATRUS Policy (in Russian):
http://vatrus.info/sites/default/files/ ... vatrus.pdf

Another important thing is that several countries of VATRUS division are actually in Eurocontrol in real life but are in Russian-speaking Division in VATSIM. So real life does not always affect the life of VATSIM.
By Tim Wong 1179662
#481612 Image

In addition, as you can see on the screenshot Georgia is not administered by VATRUS Division.
Source: http://vatrus.info/en/firs

Last but not least, Georgia vACC does not exist on VATSIM officially. Neither has it its own staff nor has it a rebuild team.

A quote from old VATEUD (European) Division website:

"Georgia
A vACC does not yet officially exist in Georgia. As part of a new initiative to bring online presence to current dormant or non-existant areas of VATEUD, please note that until further notice, these may be manned at will by anyone regardless of which vACC they belong to within the European Division. In other words, members can control as per their GRP2 rating requirement at any time they so wish without the need to sign up as Visiting Controllers. This policy will be reviewed soon."
Source: http://old.vateud.net/country-rooster/g-n/georgia
By Adam Trzcinski 1125672
#538889 Thread Hijack!

(https://www.vateud.net/policies-and-regulations/)
8 Open Sky, Senior Roaming

With the enactment of this document, VATEUD ends the Senior Roaming Endorsement and the Open Sky Program.


I may have missed it, but was a reason provided why this was abandoned?
Any plans by VATEUR or VATEUD to return the OpenSkies program?
Or is there any other policy in place to control in areas that do not have a FIR/vACC active?