- Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:42 pm #531454 Hi everyone

I'd like to hear what controllers think of an RDF in Euroscope.

If you don't know what it is; here's a brief explanation:

"Radio Direction Finder (RDF) assists the controllers in rapidly identifying which aircraft is transmitting on the frequency. " [EUROCONTROL]
It addresses, for controllers, an important problem: the voice codec. Gone are the days asking to repeat the callsigns!

Photo: https://www.eurocontrol.int/sites/defau ... tified.png
In action video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpLKP_CxaLo

I personally think such plugin would require relatively low work compared to others, especially due to its tremendous potential and usability. Additionally, most of the code code has already been written! The MUAC plugin by Pierre Ferran (https://github.com/pierr3/UACPlugin) includes a fully functional RDF. Though it unfortunately requires a separate radar screen, with custom tags etc, for it to be used.

Controllers, make some noise! And maybe,... just maybe,... we can see an RDF in the near future.

Kind regards,

Matisse Van Wezer



Want to know more? https://www.eurocontrol.int/articles/ra ... finder-rdf

- Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:07 pm #531469 That MUAC plugin looks really interesting! But from what I can tell the link only has the source code, or am I missing something?

Martin Loxbo
Director Sweden FIR
VATSIM Scandinavia

- Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:13 pm #531472 Not sure what that means, I'm no tech guy

Though while browsing through the files on Github, I did see quite a few lines of code about the RDF.

- Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:32 am #531493 I have used MUAC in Euroscope successfully many times. The RDF feature works brilliantly.
You can find the working DLL in the readme of the Github repository.

Cheers,
ANdrew

VATSIM Technology Team

- Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:11 pm #531505 Thanks Andrew, but I cannot seem to find the DLL.

Is this the link? https://ci.appveyor.com/api/projects/pi ... ightly.zip

It doesn't seem to work unfortunately.

Martin Loxbo
Director Sweden FIR
VATSIM Scandinavia

- Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:34 pm #531506 Yes, that is the correct link. The plugin requires you to create a separate radar screen to use it, and the option can be found under Open SCT (as far as I remember). Bear in mind that this plugin was designed for Eurocontrol, and if you wish to use this plugin for regular CTR/TMA controlling you might come across some limitations. You must also give the plugin all of the permissions it requires in the Plugins menu. A dedicated RDF plugin would be an interesting idea for the future.

Hope this helps!

Cheers,

VATSIM Technology Team

- Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:50 am #531509 Hi all,

Martin, the link is broken, my bad, I'll try and get it back up asap.

EDIT: The link is back up.

vSMR Plugin for EuroScope

- Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:27 pm #531555 Thanks Pierre! Looking forward to try the plugin out.

Now all we need is a good Maastricht simulation...

Martin Loxbo
Director Sweden FIR
VATSIM Scandinavia

- Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:35 pm #534241 I have been playing a bit around with a plugin, only with RDF (or at least, RDF'ish) functionality. Feel free to have a look at it and try it out: https://github.com/chembergj/RDF

There is an ok solution (circle and line drawing like in the video linked above), and a less ok tag-based solution, but still the simplest thing I could make work, in case you are not using the Standard ES Radar view. I have tried to describe the options on the page linked, not that easy, but hopefully understandable.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find out, how to implement without using a custom radar view, but if anyone could explain to me, how I can draw on a radar view not defined by my plugin, I would be happy to hear more about it, since it would make this plugin much more usable!

Best regards

Claus Hemberg Jørgensen
Controller/Mentor, Vatsim Scandinavia

- Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:55 pm #534503 FYI:
I have just made a new version 1.1 of the RDF Plugin.
Since I finally found out, how the circle and line could be drawn on all allowed radar screen types, I have removed the somewhat clumsy tag implementation. The new version also includes the possibility to configure the color of the circle and line (default=white).

Read more details on https://github.com/chembergj/RDF (in case you have used the old version already, please note the section "For users of old version".)

- Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:59 pm #534507

FYI:
I have just made a new version 1.1 of the RDF Plugin.
Since I finally found out, how the circle and line could be drawn on all allowed radar screen types, I have removed the somewhat clumsy tag implementation. The new version also includes the possibility to configure the color of the circle and line (default=white).

Read more details on https://github.com/chembergj/RDF (in case you have used the old version already, please note the section "For users of old version".)

Claus, thanks a lot for your work! I hope you don't mind me stealing the thread a bit and asking if there are any instructions on installing the UACPlugin, as I couldn't find any on Github/the forums, although I might have not searched deep enough. Is it as simple as changing the display type in the asr file?

Many thanks!

[EDIT] Just after writing that I realised that you are not the author of the UACPlugin, but if someone has any experience using it, please share

Nick Marinov
VATSIM Europe Deputy Region Director

Senior Network Supervisor
VATUK ATC Training Group Manager

- Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:53 pm #534642 @Claus: excellent plugin, thanks!

You may consider your own topic?

Martijn

- Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:06 pm #534643

@Claus: excellent plugin, thanks!

You may consider your own topic?

Martijn

I'm glad to hear, that you find it useful. Good idea with own topic - might make other users aware.

B.r. Claus

EDIT: separate topic created: https://forums.vatsim.net/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=79194

Claus Hemberg Joergensen
ATC/Mentor - EKDK FIR,VATSIM Scandinavia
ATC - Eurocontrol West