Receiving FPLs from uncontrolled airports

[Eivind Fosse 818131]

I was wondering how the METAR list works in this case:

 

A relatively well used uncontrolled airport is situated below Oslo TMA. The airport is ENKJ and I would like to receive FPLs of aircrafts departing this airport.

 

I have selected “Automatically display METAR of active airports” on. The problem is that ENKJ does not issue any METAR, so I get “ENKJ – no weather data” in the METAR list.

 

On the other hand, another uncontrolled airport, ENEG, does also not issue any METAR. This airport however does not show up in the METAR list (and that is good obviously).

 

ENEG does not have any runway in the SCT file, so I tried to remove the runway at ENKJ, but this did not remove the “ENKJ – no weather data”.

 

Is there a way that I can get flight plans from aircraft departing ENKJ, without displaying a METAR that never appears?

 

Eivind

[David Saunders 818672]

2 seperate questions here

 

1st - as long as you have selected your active runway in the dialogue box this will show the airport ie:- iaw the pic below, as long as the runway is in the ESE file

 

A : Select the airport

 

B : Select the airport as active

 

C: Select the Departure runway

 

D: Select the Arrival runway

 

 

2nd : at the moment you will have set the "Automatically display the METAR of active airports" ticked this means even though you are selecting ENKJ in the active airport dialogue because they have no METAR it displays no weather, simple solution turn off the tick, this will solve this problem

 

 

hopefully this has answered your questions

[Eivind Fosse 818131]

I see that if I tick off the markers at ENKJ, the METAR will disappear. But that also mean that no flight planes filed from ENKJ will appear in my Departure List. And that is the whole point. I would like the flight plans, but not the METAR.

[Jonas Eberle]

I see that if I tick off the markers at ENKJ, the METAR will disappear. But that also mean that no flight planes filed from ENKJ will appear in my Departure List. And that is the whole point. I would like the flight plans, but not the METAR.

Deselect "Automatically display the METAR of active airports",

choose which METARs you want to see by F2 ,

that's it

[Eivind Fosse 818131]

Well, that is an option, but with up to 50 metars in the list, that is not an acceptable solution...

[Martin Bergin 931070]

Well, that is an option, but with up to 50 metars in the list, that is not an acceptable solution...

 

Use an alias - I use .weather .QD*

 

*or what ever the command is....

[David Saunders 818672]

I see that if I tick off the markers at ENKJ, the METAR will disappear. But that also mean that no flight planes filed from ENKJ will appear in my Departure List. And that is the whole point. I would like the flight plans, but not the METAR.

 

the answer i gave answered your questions and shows you how to get what you want in the departure list, so not quite sure what you were expecting there, this is all to do with automatically display metar of active airports. untick it you get the FP in the departure list as long as you do in my previous text

 

 

Well, that is an option, but with up to 50 metars in the list, that is not an acceptable solution...

 

not quite sure why you need 50 metars, all i can say is that you must have a hell of a screen to display all those metars. But surely all you need to do if an aircraft calls you is press F2 and icao code and hey presto the metar for the airport, they depart and then click on the metar and it disappears, if it is a common airfield then by all means this will be abale to stay but smaller airfields with a couple of departures then just select the metar when needed

[Karl Kornel 964857]

Yes, this is definitely two issues.

 

For the METARs issue: There is no choice at this time. Either you manage your METARs list entirely by hand, or else you have EuroScope manage the METARs list automatically, and you live with the results.

 

For the flight plans issue: This problem can generally be fixed by changing the way that departure airports are configured for controllers. For example, KCVG can have many controllers: CVG_DEL, CVG_GND, CVG_TWR, CVG_APP, and IND_CTR. KCVG is in the DEPAPT list for every position from CVG_GND up to and including CVG_APP (CVG_DEL is not in the sector file). Therefore, if I am on CVG_APP and CVG_TWR comes online, I will still see outbound aircraft in my Planes list.

 

To be more specific, I used the following rules when I created the sectors for the Indianapolis ARTCC .ese file:

 

1. Create one SECTOR for each IND_CTR split
   IND_CTR can be split up to four ways (east/west and high/low), so that's 4 sectors.
   
2. Create one SECTOR for each approach
   
3. For each towered field, create one SECTOR for the TWR position, and one SECTOR for the GND position.
   To make the work easier, I just used the CIRCLE_SECTORLINE here.

 

And here are the rules I used for filling in the ARRAPT and DEPAPT lists:

 

• For each TWR and GND SECTOR, put their airport code in the DEPAPT and ARRAPT list.
  
• For each approach, the DEPAPT and ARRAPT lists contain:
  
  1. All of the towered fields
     
  2. All of the uncontrolled fields

  [*]For each CTR, the DEPAPT and ARRAPT lists contain:

  1. Towered fields that have no approach control
     
  2. Untowered fields that have no approach control

[Eivind Fosse 818131]

Karl,

 

I've done basically the same with my Norwegian sectorfile. In the Oslo TMA SECTOR I have the following:

 

DEPAPT:ENGM:ENRV:ENEG:ENKJ

ARRAPT:ENGM:ENRV:ENEG:ENKJ

 

Note that it's only ENGM that issues METAR. Both ENRV, ENEG and ENKJ does not. Still it is only ENKJ that is displayed with "no weather data"... ENRV and ENEG does not show up in the METAR list, and I wonder why.

 

Eivind

[Karl Kornel 964857]

hmmm

 

Please take a look at one thing for me: For ENRV and ENEG, do you have any runways selected as active? I think, for a METAR to be displayed, you need the airport and at least one runway active.

[Eivind Fosse 818131]

Yes Karl, I think that is true.

 

ENEG and ENRV does not have a runway available at all in the SCT file since they are very small airports. ENKJ is however listed in the AIP Norway and has a runway in the SCT. I deleted it from the SCT and now it does not show up in the METAR list

 

If I only now receive the FPLs from AC departing those airports I am happy!

 

Eivind