Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted April 22, 2010 at 02:00 AM Posted April 22, 2010 at 02:00 AM I've been trying to use the Wilco E190 for a while now. It works fine, I get decent frames offline. But as soon as I connect to vatsim, the frames become quite stuttery and rapidly flicker between 22-25 FPS and 4-5 FPS. This is unusable. I have the Wilco A320 and I can use it online with no issues at all. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nehal Kanetkar 1068642 Posted April 22, 2010 at 11:30 AM Posted April 22, 2010 at 11:30 AM Are You running it with FS9 or FSX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted April 22, 2010 at 05:27 PM Author Posted April 22, 2010 at 05:27 PM FSX, sorry should have mentioned that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charan Kumar Posted April 22, 2010 at 06:23 PM Posted April 22, 2010 at 06:23 PM Have you tried running it in full screen vs. Windowed mode and see if that makes a difference? And what about ur FSInn multiplane range and other recmmended settings and also the recent FSX settings. They have all been doing a world of good to me and I only use Windowed mode, although I am not flying any Wilco products ATM. When is your next Flight||VATSIM HitSquad Member, ZOA/ZAK/GANDER/P1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted April 22, 2010 at 06:54 PM Author Posted April 22, 2010 at 06:54 PM No difference in full screen vs windowed and I've tried every multilayer setting as well. This problem only occurs with the E190. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted April 22, 2010 at 06:56 PM Posted April 22, 2010 at 06:56 PM I use the Wilco E190 with FSX and it runs fine .... I use Squawkbox 4 ... have you tried that just to see if it has anything to do with the pilot client? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Mauro Posted April 22, 2010 at 07:00 PM Posted April 22, 2010 at 07:00 PM Also, Darrol, don't forget, you can run Squawkbox OUTSIDE of your Flight Simulator which actually gives you an extra 2-3 FPS. May not sound like a lot but trust me, it is an improvement Chris Mauro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted April 22, 2010 at 07:08 PM Author Posted April 22, 2010 at 07:08 PM Thanks for the advice, I use FSInn, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry James 901346 Posted April 24, 2010 at 05:25 PM Posted April 24, 2010 at 05:25 PM Thanks for the advice, I use FSInn, though. Hi, Darrol. Have you followed the steps provided in the FSInn/VATSIM FAQ for performance. Each one of the items will add a few FPS to the mix. The one referring to payware doubles the FPS for some people. As of course, while I wouldn't recommend it, but you can also run FSInn outside of FSX as the users suggested about Squawkbox. If you're not doing it, you can also gain FPS when running FSInn on a remote computer. -- L. James -- L. D. James [email protected] http://www.apollo3.com/~ljames sticky: Not a regular post, but a special thread/message stuck to the top with special meaning… containing important forum information. For FSInn/VATSIM issues, please test the FSInn Installation sticky and linked FAQ. It really works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted April 25, 2010 at 02:24 PM Author Posted April 25, 2010 at 02:24 PM Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I have followed the steps and the problem does not appear to be related to FSInn. I've managed to improve it to a somewhat workable point by following a suggestion on Wilco's site I originally misread to only refer to CTDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Larry James 901346 Posted June 13, 2010 at 09:25 AM Posted June 13, 2010 at 09:25 AM Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, I have followed the steps and the problem does not appear to be related to FSInn. I've managed to improve it to a somewhat workable point by following a suggestion on Wilco's site I originally misread to only refer to CTDs. What are the performance steps you did and the results? User who perform all the steps don't see any noticeable difference between being connected to VATSIM and not being connected to VATSIM. -- L. James -- L. D. James [email protected] www.apollo3.com/~ljames sticky: Not a regular post, but a special thread/message stuck to the top with special meaning… containing important forum information. For FSInn/VATSIM issues, please test the FSInn Installation sticky and linked FAQ. It really works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted June 13, 2010 at 03:40 PM Author Posted June 13, 2010 at 03:40 PM From Willco: HOW TO SETUP under Windows VISTA : * Go into program files\microsoft games\ * highlight Flight Simulator X folder and right-click on it * Select the SECURITY tab * Click on your username (not on Administrator 1) * Click on the 'edit' option (it should have a pic of a shield on the button with edit next to it) * Then you should be prompted by Vista security module, click on 'ALLOW' * Then tick the 'Full Control' box and press 'OK' You should then be able to use the add-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry James 901346 Posted June 13, 2010 at 04:03 PM Posted June 13, 2010 at 04:03 PM From Willco: HOW TO SETUP under Windows VISTA : * Go into program files\microsoft games\ * highlight Flight Simulator X folder and right-click on it * Select the SECURITY tab * Click on your username (not on Administrator 1) * Click on the 'edit' option (it should have a pic of a shield on the button with edit next to it) * Then you should be prompted by Vista security module, click on 'ALLOW' * Then tick the 'Full Control' box and press 'OK' You should then be able to use the add-on. If you would follow the steps provided VIA the Please Read sticky of the FSInn Help forum for installation and performance it's unlikely that you'd see any difference between running Flight Simulator while connected to VATSIM and while not. You said you notice a difference after connecting to VATSIM. There doesn't have to be a difference when you're running FSInn. All the steps in the Installation sticky are important. Most of the resolutions provided in the FSInn/VATSIM FAQ linked in the FSInn Installation sticky are important. Especially the one related to running Addons and FPS. -- L. James -- L. D. James [email protected] www.apollo3.com/~ljames sticky: Not a regular post, but a special thread/message stuck to the top with special meaning… containing important forum information. For FSInn/VATSIM issues, please test the FSInn Installation sticky and linked FAQ. It really works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted June 13, 2010 at 05:57 PM Author Posted June 13, 2010 at 05:57 PM I did follow the steps, I [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ure you. They fixed the issues with my other addons, just not the E90. Overall, they do work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry James 901346 Posted June 13, 2010 at 06:32 PM Posted June 13, 2010 at 06:32 PM I did follow the steps, I [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ure you. They fixed the issues with my other addons, just not the E90. Overall, they do work. Hi, Darrol. I don't mean to pester you. I appreciate your comment that the steps work. I believe there is a problem somewhere if you see a difference between being connected to VATSIM and not. Did you notice any difference at all when you ran FSInn on a remote machine rather than the FS machine? Any difference at all? Did you notice any difference when you used the option to exclude the payware aircraft from being used by FSInn? Any at all? So far everyone who has reported on those items has reported a significant FPS improvement. Some people having super machines have said their performance is so good that the difference isn't drastic, but they notice a difference. People who have the average performance machines say they notice a very significant difference when performing those steps. -- L. James -- L. D. James [email protected] www.apollo3.com/~ljames sticky: Not a regular post, but a special thread/message stuck to the top with special meaning… containing important forum information. For FSInn/VATSIM issues, please test the FSInn Installation sticky and linked FAQ. It really works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted June 13, 2010 at 06:43 PM Author Posted June 13, 2010 at 06:43 PM I never had the opportunity to run it remotely as only have one decent computer I always check my plane display list in FSInn, and I only use the MT planes, so I never have my payware displayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry James 901346 Posted June 13, 2010 at 06:53 PM Posted June 13, 2010 at 06:53 PM I never had the opportunity to run it remotely as only have one decent computer I didn't know that you didn't perform that performance steps since you said you performed them all, I [Mod - Happy Thoughts]umed you did. I'm going over the items in FSInn/VATSIM FAQ question #9 ("How can I increase my FPS with FSInn?"). I always check my plane display list in FSInn, and I only use the MT planes, so I never have my payware displayed. I don't understand that description as a one of the steps. This is why I asked you do describe the steps you actually do on your computer. If you perform them the way they are described in the FAQ I believe you'll see a noticeable difference. Flying on VATSIM shouldn't be much different performance wise than flying offline, if you perform the steps the way they are described in the FAQ. I can't tell from your message which ones you've actually done since the two biggest one I described specifically don't appear to have been done on your system. Again, I don't mean to be a pest, but it would appear that it's related to your pilot client configuration if you only see the performance hit when you're connected to VATSIM. I'll stop trying to get you to specify the performance steps you're doing on your computer and the results if you prefer not to. -- L. James -- L. D. James [email protected] http://www.apollo3.com/~ljames sticky: Not a regular post, but a special thread/message stuck to the top with special meaning… containing important forum information. For FSInn/VATSIM issues, please test the FSInn Installation sticky and linked FAQ. It really works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrol Larrok 1140797 Posted June 13, 2010 at 07:03 PM Author Posted June 13, 2010 at 07:03 PM No, it's no problem. 1. MP range is between 15-20 2. FSInn weather is not used, I use ASX. 3.I check over the list of planes and do not allow it to use my payware for display(i have the exclude line in) 4. Graphical borders are not used. I do not run it on an extra computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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