VATSIM-official ServInfo update 2010 - we need your data!

[Jeff Meaden 1104399]

hi, ive sent off a copy of our logo and Name it was done befor 0ct 1 just wondering when do you think everything is going to be updated ??

thanks

jeff

[Gunnar Lindahl]

Hi Anders,

 

To clarify, there are no changes the UK need to make other than the ones submitted at the moment -- we are in the middle of a major airspace restructure but don't anticipate any designators or boundaries to be moved.

 

Cheers

[Sergey Balandin]

Anders, Russia sent, please acknowledge riciept.

[Dave James 1018738]

Hi Anders,

 

To clarify, there are no changes the UK need to make other than the ones submitted at the moment -- we are in the middle of a major airspace restructure but don't anticipate any designators or boundaries to be moved.

 

Cheers

May I take it from this that you are therefore prohibiting me from supplying anything to the update team/allowing Anders NOT to use it, including the last full weeks work on all of the airfields ?

 

That is the only way I can interpret the above statement.

 

And also from this I take it there is no point in myself spending any time now watching for any developements as even though the internal boundaries are going to change, your preference appears to be that you do not wish to show this in servinfo. (even if it is just to show pilots where the sectors are as a reference).

 

An absolutely disgusted and totally demotivated member !

[Gunnar Lindahl]

Hi Anders,

 

To clarify, there are no changes the UK need to make other than the ones submitted at the moment -- we are in the middle of a major airspace restructure but don't anticipate any designators or boundaries to be moved.

 

Cheers

May I take it from this that you are therefore prohibiting me from supplying anything to the update team/allowing Anders NOT to use it, including the last full weeks work on all of the airfields ?

 

That is the only way I can interpret the above statement.

 

And also from this I take it there is no point in myself spending any time now watching for any developements as even though the internal boundaries are going to change, your preference appears to be that you do not wish to show this in servinfo. (even if it is just to show pilots where the sectors are as a reference).

 

An absolutely disgusted and totally demotivated member !

 

???

 

No, I am not prohibiting you from doing anything. I was merely pointing out that there were no major changes to airport designators or airspace designators since the last update. What on earth are you talking about? I was under the impression that your work on Servinfo was ongoing; you will notice Anders' deadline was Oct 24th, meaning that the UK was not submitting anything for that deadline. Hence my post.

 

Regards from another m[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ively demotivated member as a result of you taking my comment completely the wrong way.

[Dave James 1018738]

This

 

[u]To clarify, there are no changes the UK need to make other than the ones submitted at the moment[/u]

 

The only other submitted data at the moment is EGHQ.

 

Please tell me as to how I am suppose to read it any other way ?

[Gunnar Lindahl]

This

 

[u]To clarify, there are no changes the UK need to make other than the ones submitted at the moment[/u]

 

The only other submitted data at the moment is EGHQ.

 

Please tell me as to how I am suppose to read it any other way ?

 

I will rephrase my sentence in order for you to understand how you were "supposed" to read it:

 

To clarify, there are no changes the UK need to make AT THE MOMENT other than the ones submitted.

 

i.e. We acknowledge that your (Anders') deadline is approaching in the next 3 days, do not expect any further updates from us (VATSIM-UK as a collective) for this deadline. We (VATSIM-UK as a collective) will send you an update package for the next cycle.

[Ross Carlson]

Gunnar, while I think all the drama is uncalled for, I can certainly understand how Dave misread your original comment. You said that UK didn't need to make any more changes at the moment. That is very different from saying that the UK has needed changes that won't make the 24th deadline.

 

The way you explained it above (starting with "i.e. We acknowledge that your (Anders') deadline...") is much clearer.

[Gunnar Lindahl]

Gunnar, while I think all the drama is uncalled for, I can certainly understand how Dave misread your original comment. You said that UK didn't need to make any more changes at the moment. That is very different from saying that the UK has needed changes that won't make the 24th deadline.

 

The way you explained it above (starting with "i.e. We acknowledge that your (Anders') deadline...") is much clearer.

 

Hi Ross,

 

I appreciate my wording was unclear, and for that I apologise. I don't appreciate being shot down in a public forum when Dave knows full well that I 100% support his work to update Servinfo, as per my posts in the last couple of weeks on the UK forum. An email or polite post requesting clarification would have sorted the issue immediately, without the drama.

[Dave James 1018738]

Thanks Gunnar, very clear now.

 

One thing left

but don't anticipate any designators or boundaries to be moved

 

Does this mean for now, for ever or what exactly.

Is this also intended for this deadline also.

 

Question, is it really worth me spending time on this at all, a straight and uncryptic yes or no will suffice.

 

Respectfully

 

PS No Drama from me.

[Gunnar Lindahl]

Thanks Gunnar, very clear now.

 

One thing left

but don't anticipate any designators or boundaries to be moved

 

Does this mean for now, for ever or what exactly.

 

When I wrote that post, it looked unlikely that we would be changing our area designators (EGTT, MAN, LON) as we had an agreed pattern of callsigns. I can't answer your question; it depends what is decided with regards to the area sectors. It's an ongoing discussion, as you know.

 

Question, is it really worth me spending time on this at all, a straight and uncryptic yes or no will suffice.

 

When we know exactly what's happening with our area sectors, then of course it'd be great to have an updated SI file if you're willing to do it. Until then, airport updates (although I don't think there are very many) are useful too.

 

In uncryptic terms, yes.

[Dave James 1018738]

Brilliant, at last, thanks.

[Sergey Balandin]

Anders, confirm you'e got russia update files?

[Anders Henriksen 1018158]

Hi guys,

 

The project is a month delayed due to other commitments that has made my available time for VATSIM duties almost zero the last weeks. Things are looking much better now

I have now started the updating of ServInfo again and expect it to be released next week. These VACC's have sent in updates (per 21st of November):

 

- Africa Control (AFRN/C/S + GULF)

- Belux (Belgium and Luxembourg)

- Dakar Oceanic

- Emirates (OMDW)

- EuroControl (N/M/W/E/S/I)

- France (LFNG + LFMS)

- Iceland

- Ireland

- Norway

- Portugal

- Sweden

- Thailand

- UK (EGHQ)

- Oceania

- Italy

- Germany

- Netherlands and Caribbean

- Alaska

- Latvia

- Bangladesh

- Bulgaria

- Russia

 

+ Several updates in airlines.

 

If you have an update and is not listed above, send it to me ASAP. It will be released next weekend so anything sent to me after Thursday 25th of November wont make it this time.

Edited November 22, 2010 at 01:37 AM by Guest

[Tessaro Karel]

Hi Anders,

I'm the new VAT France Deputy Director,

Sebastien Bartosz told me about this update, and i hope it's not too late to submit some modifications especially about Paris High Radar LFUP_CTR.

Tell me if it's possible to send you an addition data update ?

 

thks a lot for this work

[Brendan Chen 943434]

Hi Anders,

 

Thanks for notifying us, we have made significant amendments to data in China, from memory, quite a number of new airlines were added (callsign and icons etc.), and pretty much all China's large and medium (with some small) airports, aerodromes and airfields were added with new amendments on the FIR information.

 

We are currently revising this information before distributing, as we have minor changes with the callsign of some of our enroute control sectors.

 

We will submit as soon as this has been confirmed.

 

Again, thanks for the notification.

 

Regards

[Anders Henriksen 1018158]

Tell me if it's possible to send you an addition data update ?

 

Yes, but no later than Thursday this week.

[Tessaro Karel]

update send, thks Anders

[Anders Henriksen 1018158]

The 2010 update will be uploaded tomorrow, these countries is updated this time:

 

* Africa

* Alaska

* Bangladesh

* Belgium

* Brazil

* Bulgaria

* Canada

* Carribian

* China

* Czech Republic

* Dakar

* Emirates

* EuroControl

* France

* Greenland

* Germany

* Iceland

* Ireland

* Italy

* Latvia

* Lithuania

* Luxembourg

* Norway

* Netherlands

* Oceania

* Portugal

* Russia

* Sweden

* Thailand

* United Kingdom

* USA

 

and 170 airlines

[Dave James 1018738]

Anders,

 

Thanks for the hard work and hours put in by yourself and all contributors with this update, appreciated very much and well done to you and the team - excellent

[tom van der elst]

What Dave James said!

Thanks guys!