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How do us X-Plane users fly SIDs and STARs?


Gabriel Carpreau 1161959
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Jordan Krushen 1135174
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The VORs and NDBs are there, it's just the fixes aren't, but if that isn't meant to be an RNAV chart..

Exactly.

 

If you want the fixes and SIDS and STARs for UFMC, you definitely want a Navigraph account. I'm pretty sure they give you a freebie (or at least used to), so take that and play with it, or just buy the 10 pounds worth of credits—if you update every other month, it'll last you a year. It's not the end of the world if your data is a few months out of date, as the fixes don't change all that much. UFMC comes with a converter and instructions on what to do with the Navigraph data to get it into X-Plane, then you'll have plenty of fixes.

 

Infact, it seems no SIDs or STARs have RNAV charts in the UK

It's not so much that a SID or STAR will have both types of charts. It's that a SID or STAR is either conventional or RNAV. For example, the Vancouver BOOTH7 arrival is the conventional STAR, while the CANUC9 is the RNAV version of the same arrival. It's not that BOOTH has conventional and RNAV versions—they're different STARs.

 

I don't fly in the UK much, or at all, lately, but from what I've heard, Europe has plenty of RNAV procedures to go around.. At a quick glance, I'm seeing conventional SIDs for Heathrow, but there are plenty of RNAV STARs from what I can see.

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Gabriel Carpreau 1161959
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Oh yes, I found nearly every STAR was RNAV and I went through like 10 airports looking at every SID, none were RNAV, which is a shame, as I rarely fly out of the UK.

 

Last time I flew out of the UK, in the US, I tried a circuit, they used very different radio speak then the UK, lots of different circuit procedures and the airport had like 5 other airports within 0.5NM of it.

 

Ended up landing at the wrong one

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Jordan Krushen 1135174
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I'm confused. Most of the VOR's I saw in those charts do have DME (as designated by the little "D" in the box with the name/freq). Are you sure you're tuning your radios correctly?

That's one thing the NavCan charts don't portray

For posterity's sake, I realized today that while Canadian charts don't have the "D" in a box, we do list DME channels if a navaid is DME equipped. For example, on an approach plate, inside the box for YVR, it'll say (morse code shortened):

 

VANCOUVER

115.9 YVR —•——

Ch 106

 

whereas the Pitt Meadows VOR, with no DME, shows only:

 

PITT MEADOWS

112.4 YPK —•——

 

It's similar on the enroute charts—if there's no Ch xxx, there's no DME. So, one can directly determine DME presence on Canadian charts as well. Can't believe I didn't notice this before, but what I do love about this hobby is that you learn something new every day.

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