FIXES and WAYPOINTS

[Grant Bonsant 1163630]

I fly a lot of Canadian routes and I've been finding that when I go to fly a STAR, I cannot find any of the fixes/waypoints that are supposed to be there. For example, when I get past the last Vortac on the STAR to Saskatoon, the only other points I can find on my radar are the NDB beacons and a bunch of different named fixes that are not on my chart at all. Is there something I need to update to get those fixes to show on my radar? I mean I can do the NDB approach, but I'd much rather fly the STARS like they're meant to be flown

 

When I fly into Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, and Quebec, everything shows up on my screen...it just seems to be the "western" cities that I'm having trouble finding/loading waypoints/fixes into my computer.

 

Any ideas? Thanks in advance

[Jason Baxter 920557]

The map display isn't a radar per se, though it does combine the functions of TCAS and FMC.

 

Some fixes are computer fixes that weren't available at the time x-plane was complied. You can update the waypoints here http://data.x-plane.com/get_data.html. Failing the waypoints being in there you can use the LAT/LON feature of the FMC to fly to the point, failing that as well don't use the arrival.

[Grant Bonsant 1163630]

Thanks!

[Tony Koch]

You can enter fixes, navaids and ILSs in x-plane using Location>Local Map. There are also commercial sources of nav data if you install an FMC that can interface with them. See the topic in this forum, How do us X-Plane users fly SIDs and STARs?

[Grant Bonsant 1163630]

I will, and thanks to you too!

[Chris Kawchuk 1129097]

If you do add more FIXes - Pls send your updates to Robin Peel (http://data.x-plane.com/contact.html) so that they can be included in the next release of the NAV database for all of us to enjoy.

 

I noticed the same thing around Calgary (CYYC) and Victoria (CYYJ), i.e. FIXes that were on all my STAR arrival plates, but not in X-Plane. I simply added them by hand (using the "local map" and adding new ones in there).

 

Once you're all done, load a text editor, and find the following file:

 

/X-Plane/Resources/default data/earth_fix.dat

 

Look at the end of the file - you'll notice all your additions are placed at the end. Cut-and-paste your entries into an e-mail, and send it to Robin. It'll then be included in the next "official" run.

 

i.e.:

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Chris Kawchuk [mailto:xxx@xxx]

Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 12:33 PM

To: Robin Peel

Subject: Additions to earth_fix.dat near CYYC & CYYJ

 

Added some FIXes around CYYC (Calgary) and CYYJ (Victoria) Based on Nav

Canada's Arrival Charts (RNAV STARs) Release NAD83 2008. (Still accurate).

 

I

600 version

51.213501 -114.275833 ARBUC

51.285500 -114.209503 KELMA

51.173000 -113.859169 WISKI

51.098999 -113.695503 PENDL

51.023167 -114.278664 VITEM

51.103333 -114.221169 ADSEK

51.141335 -114.341667 DURAD

51.313332 -114.153999 UBTON

50.954666 -113.827003 TEXIT

51.019665 -114.021332 DUPLU

51.209499 -113.973503 GOSOM

51.313168 -113.888336 VOBAR

51.198166 -113.888336 KEPTU

51.031834 -113.885498 ONDIR

51.184334 -113.500504 SENKO

48.805000 -123.754997 IRKON

48.720833 -123.802330 BRANY

48.785000 -123.775002 KELKU

48.666332 -123.131668 OBSOP

48.706665 -123.370003 MIROL

99

 

This way, we can all benefit! =)

 

- CK.

[Wade Williams 877539]

If you do send in your data though, please be sure it's correct. For example, make sure the "new" fix location is coming off the most recent version of the chart, not one from 6 months ago.

[Grant Bonsant 1163630]

where would be the best place to find the newest charts? Cause I would love to be able to update the "missing" fixes in xplane and help in updating xplane

[Wade Williams 877539]

Most places you can get charts (skyvector.com, aeroplanner.com, airnav.com, etc) keep the charts updated, but it sometimes takes a few days after a cycle is released to get them updated. Just look at the date on the chart to make sure it's current before you send in data you found on it.