need advice, computer crashes on VATSIM, says no more memory

[Ron Banks 1141558]

I am sure I have upset controllers several times. I am trying to fly VATSIM with FSX I have a quad core CPU, 8GB of memory (yes, count them - 8 ), with a model ATI card running 1 gig of memory. However, at random moments, I get this nice message from my XP w/ SP3 operating system saying I have run out of available memory.

 

Has anyone else dealt with this problem? I am running UT2, GEX, and UT2 as well on this machine, but it seems to happen when I am on the VATSIM server. I would appreciate any advice as I do not want to keep disappearing off the radar while enjoying the fun.

 

Thanks,

Ron Banks

Pilatus Pilot

[Darrol Larrok 1140797]

32 or 64 bit? If it's 32 bit then only 3 gigs are being used, which would explain your shortage.

[Luke Kolin]

32 or 64 bit? If it's 32 bit then only 3 gigs are being used, which would explain your shortage.

 

Since FSX is a 32-bit app, it won't use more than 2 or 3 gigs no matter what the OS.

 

Ron, what pilot client are you using?

 

Cheers!

 

Luke

[Darrol Larrok 1140797]

 

Since FSX is a 32-bit app, it won't use more than 2 or 3 gigs no matter what the OS.

 

 

I did not know that. I sure hope "flight" pans out.

[Wim Sjoholm 1133704]

32 or 64 bit? If it's 32 bit then only 3 gigs are being used, which would explain your shortage.

 

Since FSX is a 32-bit app, it won't use more than 2 or 3 gigs no matter what the OS.

 

Ron, what pilot client are you using?

 

Cheers!

 

Luke

Not entirely true, as the 1 gig gfx card will take its share of the 3 gig virtual address space available in a 32 bit environment, along with windows etc.

[Marc Wheeler]

Do a google search on FS OOM or Out of Memory Error and you should be able to find a fix to your problem as this is a known issue and there are fixes for this.

 

Regards,

[Patrik Yngver]

It's most likley some scenery or aircraft dll that's not working propery, leaking memory. When FSX (or any other 32-bit app) have allocated around 3GB it will run out of memory, because it cannot "count" further than 4GB (certain limitations in Windows "steal" the rest).

 

Have you installed any add-ons recently? Try disabling those and see what happens.

[Ron Banks 1141558]

Guys,

 

Thanks for all the reply posts. Definitely an active forum.

 

It is 32 bit Windows so that would explain the lower memory limit, it is sad those other memory sticks have nothing to do!

 

My pilot client is Flight 1's Pilatus PC-12, an excellent machine for flying regional hops between two active approach hubs with no dead time enroute. Cruises around 200 knots and will also land on my 3,000' home gr[Mod - Happy Thoughts] strip at the end of the day Graphics wise, it is a beautiful machine inside and out as well, with 2D and 3D cockpits.

 

I do have several scenery addons, maybe I will have to give them up and also stay with a 2D panel to keep myself within the memory limits. That will definitely hurt the visual fun.

[Ron Banks 1141558]

Would I get a memory increase in FSX if I went with Windows 7?

[Wim Sjoholm 1133704]

Yeah, you would probably see an increase in effective memory available as the virtual address space in a 64 bit environment is 8TB compared to the 3GB in a 32 bit environment

[Wycliffe Barrett]

Win 7 is like having a hardware upgrade especialy if you go with 64 bit. There are some tradeoffs with this as you can't upgrade from 32bit to 64 bit you will have to reformat your harddrive and do a fresh install of everything.

 

Wycliffe

[Garry Morris 920567]

Of course, if something is leaking memory, all that's going to do is delay the inevitable.

 

I've flown 3 hours straight in FSX on Windows XP with only 2gb of RAM in the computer with no issues.

[Luke Kolin]

Both of Garry's statements bear remembering. There are plenty of folks who have been running FS9 and FSX since the P4 days with only a gig or two of total RAM. If you're hitting the per-process memory limit, it's likely due to a leak in scenery or gauges and increasing overall system RAM only postpones the inevitable.

 

Cheers

 

Luke

[Larry James 901346]

Guys,

 

Thanks for all the reply posts. Definitely an active forum.

 

It is 32 bit Windows so that would explain the lower memory limit, it is sad those other memory sticks have nothing to do!

 

My pilot client is Flight 1's Pilatus PC-12, an excellent machine for flying regional hops between two active approach hubs with no dead time enroute. Cruises around 200 knots and will also land on my 3,000' home gr[Mod - Happy Thoughts] strip at the end of the day Graphics wise, it is a beautiful machine inside and out as well, with 2D and 3D cockpits.

 

I do have several scenery addons, maybe I will have to give them up and also stay with a 2D panel to keep myself within the memory limits. That will definitely hurt the visual fun.

 

You are probably having a problem that some have with some high performance graphic adapters. The memory the card has uses the Virtual Address Space that FSX needs. Try the following change:

 

(Right Click) My Computer -> Properties -> Advance -> (Startup and Recovery) Settings -> Edit:

 

Find a line similar to:

 

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

 

Change it to:

 

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /3GB /userva=2560

 

…adding the text in red.

 

See if it resolves your FSX issues. There’s a chance it might slow down the operations of other programs, so it might remove it for other applications that don’t like it.

 

-- L. James

 

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L. D. James

[email protected]

http://www.apollo3.com/~ljames

[Ron Banks 1141558]

Thanks for the reply and advice. I have gone the "replacement" route and have installed Windows 7 64bit. It seems to have done the trick and I can use all the memory that I installed.