Tim Hutchinson 916866 Posted December 10, 2004 at 07:59 PM Posted December 10, 2004 at 07:59 PM Aaarghh!! I am a VATSIM newbie and eventually managed to get a couple of flights in yesterday, but today... I followed the following procedure yesterday: 0. start Servinfo 1. start SBRelay 2. start AVC Tuner 3. start AVC 4. start FS9 5. connect to multiplayer session 6. create flight in FS9 and run SBhost 7. start Squawkbox 8. amend callsign 9. send flightplan 10. squawk standby 11. connect 12. communicate with ATC and fly! Today, when I try and run Squawkbox, I get an error (SBRelay initially said "failed to enumerate...") and Squawkbox closes. When I then go back into FS9, the SBhost window is on screen and if I try and click anywhere on it, I just get a "beep". What's going on? Trying to persevere with VATSIM as it looks great, but really struggling with getting a consistently straightforward start-up. Any help would be much appreciated!! Thanks, Tim PS: should mention that the only difference is that I installed FSNavigator this evening. If all else fails, I will uninstall that and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hutchinson 916866 Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:06 PM Author Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:06 PM OK, looked at the list of approved software and see that FSNavigator isn't on it. Strange as I'm sure I'd read somewhere that it was. Anyway, I'll get rid of it later and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Georg 811874 Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:17 PM Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:17 PM Hiya, FS Navigator shouldn´t be the problem. It works for thousands of VATSIM users (including me). best regards, Martin Georg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hutchinson 916866 Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:31 PM Author Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:31 PM Hiya, FS Navigator shouldn´t be the problem. It works for thousands of VATSIM users (including me). That's a relief; I was sure I'd read about it somewhere being used with VATSIM. Any ideas what the problem might be then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Littlejohn Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:33 PM Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:33 PM OK, looked at the list of approved software and see that FSNavigator isn't on it. Strange as I'm sure I'd read somewhere that it was. Anyway, I'll get rid of it later and see what happens. FSNavigator is not required to connect to the VATSIM network. It is strictly a flight planning tool. Create your route in there, export your plan to SB format, load it as an FMS flight plan in SB, and connect with SB. All done. If it were required software, then I'm sure it would be listed. But as it isn't needed to connect, it isn't listed. BL. Brad Littlejohn ZLA Senior Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Catherwood 903683 Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:46 PM Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:46 PM Make sure that the Universal Plug and Play Service and the SSD Discovery Service are disabled in the Services.msc (go to start->run, type in "Services.msc"). It could also be a firewall issue. KZSE C3/Facilities Administrator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hutchinson 916866 Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:56 PM Author Posted December 10, 2004 at 08:56 PM Make sure that the Universal Plug and Play Service and the SSD Discovery Service are disabled in the Services.msc (go to start->run, type in "Services.msc"). It could also be a firewall issue. Nope, they're not running. Like I say, it worked fine yesterday, so more head scratching to follow. Of course, it would be helpful if the Microsoft error report was intelligible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hutchinson 916866 Posted December 10, 2004 at 09:01 PM Author Posted December 10, 2004 at 09:01 PM Uninstalled FSNavigator and problem goes away...pity, looked like a useful bit of software. Unless I can work out WHY it caused a problem, I guess I'll have to make do without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Weese 817228 Posted December 12, 2004 at 06:33 PM Posted December 12, 2004 at 06:33 PM I can't belive FSNav was the root cause of this problem. Did you try reinstalling FSnav and seeing what happens? Dave Weese (CXA007) Fleet Manager Canadian Xpress Virtual Airline® http://www.CanadianXpress.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hutchinson 916866 Posted December 13, 2004 at 01:12 PM Author Posted December 13, 2004 at 01:12 PM I can't belive FSNav was the root cause of this problem. Did you try reinstalling FSnav and seeing what happens? I don't see why FSNav should be the cause either and so I will try re-installing... Watch this space! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hutchinson 916866 Posted December 14, 2004 at 12:05 PM Author Posted December 14, 2004 at 12:05 PM I've reinstalled FSNav and the problem has reappeared. When I try and connect to Squawkbox, a Microsoft Error report appears on screen and the SBRelay window shows a message saying "Failed Enumerating the Hosts". When I switch back to the FS9 window and try and click in the SBHost window, the PC just beeps at me. I can't do anything with the SBHost window and end up using task manager to shut down the sim. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Keech 840211 Posted December 27, 2004 at 03:31 PM Posted December 27, 2004 at 03:31 PM I have the same issue. It may be SBHost inside of FS, try running it outside of FS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart Vedin Posted December 27, 2004 at 03:56 PM Posted December 27, 2004 at 03:56 PM > It may be SBHost inside of FS, try running it outside of FS Yes it can be so. Crash is a common fail when running SBHost.dll . If you haven't, try instead run "Host SB.exe" is a separate window. And don't run the SBHost.dll from the FS-menu. / Lennart Vedin / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joost Veeningen 879260 Posted December 27, 2004 at 08:23 PM Posted December 27, 2004 at 08:23 PM Damn I have exactly the same problem. Last few months it all worked properly. But yesterday I reinstalled windows. The only thing I installed was FS2004 plus sbrelay/squawkbox/fscuipc/ and so on. But when I connect squawkbox to sbrelay, I get the message "Failed Enumerating the Hosts". I allready tried running SBhost in an external window, but it didn't help. What's even stranger is that the program did work 1 time this evening, but in that session squawkbox did not respond in FS. I also tried disabling firewall, but as I said it all worked fine with firewall before the reinstall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joost Veeningen 879260 Posted December 28, 2004 at 10:10 AM Posted December 28, 2004 at 10:10 AM Damn I have exactly the same problem. Last few months it all worked properly. But yesterday I reinstalled windows.The only thing I installed was FS2004 plus sbrelay/squawkbox/fscuipc/ and so on. But when I connect squawkbox to sbrelay, I get the message "Failed Enumerating the Hosts". I allready tried running SBhost in an external window, but it didn't help. What's even stranger is that the program did work 1 time this evening, but in that session squawkbox did not respond in FS. I also tried disabling firewall, but as I said it all worked fine with firewall before the reinstall. After a few tries I now don't have that message about Enumerating anymore. Now squawkbox startsup, but it doesn't seem to receive any data from the servers. Normally you would get some info about VATSIM and the regulation and so on. But there's nothing. Moreover when I connect via squawkbox inside FS, it won't connect and after about 15 sec. it says unable to connect. I think it's a firewall issue after all. But I even tried enabling DMZ for my pc only, but it didn't help Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart Vedin Posted December 28, 2004 at 10:50 AM Posted December 28, 2004 at 10:50 AM If router, make sure set UPnP disable. Then just wild guess, I'm not an expert on this network setup: In network setup for PC and router, try setup as much as possible manual, not automatically. Not Obtain an IP address automatically. Not DNS automatically. Not use DHCP. If possible enter all IP-adresses such as gateway etc, your self. / Lennart Vedin / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hutchinson 916866 Posted December 29, 2004 at 06:55 PM Author Posted December 29, 2004 at 06:55 PM I have the same issue. It may be SBHost inside of FS, try running it outside of FS Sorry if I'm asking a stupid question, but how do I do this? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennart Vedin Posted December 29, 2004 at 07:12 PM Posted December 29, 2004 at 07:12 PM There is no stupid questions. In FS in the menu there is: Modules -> HostSB . This will start the HostSB.dll . So don't start this. Instead search the file "SB Host.exe" on your Harddisk. It should be there if you have download the SB software. Start the "SB Host.exe" and it will open a separate empty window. Then start squawkbox.exe . It will work exactly the same as HostSB.dll but in a separate window. Besides, some common trouble shooting are at: http://forums.vatsim.net/viewtopic.php?p=2262#2262 / Lennart Vedin / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Hutchinson 916866 Posted December 29, 2004 at 10:36 PM Author Posted December 29, 2004 at 10:36 PM Lennart, Thank you very much for your very helpful replies and the pointer to the troubleshooting thread. Too late to do anymore today, but I will have a bit more of a fiddle tommorrow evening and see how I get on. Thanks again, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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