Kent Kasten 868422 Posted January 11, 2011 at 02:08 PM Posted January 11, 2011 at 02:08 PM Can somebody please tell me why an ATM who is clearly hurting an ARTCC can't get removed by the VATSIM governors or other senior VATSIM member from their position for: 1) Writing policy which clearly violates VATSIM, VATNA and VATUSA rules and regulations. 2) Is not following his basic job description of promoting the ARTCC by having an online presence of 16 hours for the last 6+ months. 3) Is being protected by a superior position. Thanks, Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Ramsey 810181 Posted January 11, 2011 at 02:12 PM Posted January 11, 2011 at 02:12 PM By first contacting the DD, then the RD, then you can elevate it to the BoG if none of those people do anything, and that doesn't mean what they do you don't agree with. Posting here in the forum won't solve a thing though and places you in a borderline CoC violstion. This isn't how problems are solved here, we don't do trial by forum. Kyle Ramsey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Kasten 868422 Posted January 11, 2011 at 03:10 PM Author Posted January 11, 2011 at 03:10 PM Kyle, I'm sorry but how does asking a question in regards to the process of ATM removal put me in possible violation of CoC? Did I mention anything about who, or what ARTCC, no! I'm not trying to do anything but understand the process by which it should work but apparently isn't from where I sit, as many members of the ARTCC have taken the chain of command route. I never knew asking a question was against the law here...I'll shut up now. Regards, Kent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romano Lara Posted January 11, 2011 at 03:21 PM Posted January 11, 2011 at 03:21 PM I think Kyle was simply giving the correct directions where this issue should go because washing the dirty laundries here isn't a good idea and might cross the borderline of CoC A13 (if I'm not mistaken). He did not mention that you are violating the CoC, but rather you might if you decided to continue posting the local issue here. Romano LaravACC Philippines, Manager - Training & Standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Millsaps 830104 Posted January 11, 2011 at 03:26 PM Posted January 11, 2011 at 03:26 PM The DD is dealing with/has dealt with the issue at hand. Gary Millsaps VATUSA1 "I knew all the rules but the rules did not know me... guaranteed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Blackburn Posted January 11, 2011 at 06:37 PM Posted January 11, 2011 at 06:37 PM Moved from General Discussion. Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Leavitt 1081600 Posted January 11, 2011 at 09:42 PM Posted January 11, 2011 at 09:42 PM The DD is dealing with/has dealt with the issue at hand. Have you informed the facility members of how this problem was/is being taken care of? May help with communication issues if that's done. DL Dan Leavitt vZAU En Route Controller American Virtual Airlines ORD Hub Ops Director joinava.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Baker 1080999 Posted January 13, 2011 at 08:07 PM Posted January 13, 2011 at 08:07 PM The DD is dealing with/has dealt with the issue at hand. Yes Gary please communicate with that ARTCC about whatever was done to solve or redeem the issue. Communication is key. ZAU S-2, Major Certified ZAU S-1 Mentor (Disclaimer: the post above does not necessarily express the opinion or stance of ZAU or ZAUs training program, this view is made by me and me alone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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