Rob Killins 897126 Posted January 27, 2011 at 07:14 PM Posted January 27, 2011 at 07:14 PM I'm trying to understand the context of the Coordination Point Subsection in the hopes of applying this feature to our sector rebuild. I am finding the Wiki explanation vague as I'm not sure what is meant by rules, nor am I able to relate to components to their example. Will somehow help me understand how this section works, the parameters of each line, and the specifics to ensure that the section is used efficiently. This is a new concept to me, so I need an understanding how it works, and what to anticipate with it's use, in order to determine whether it's a useful feature. With reference to the Wiki source: FIR_COPX:*:*:BUDOP:LHBP:*:BPM:BUD:*:28000:BUDOP FIR_COPX:*:*:NARKA:*:*:BPT:BUD:*:*:NARKA FIR_COPX:*:*:NARKA:*:*:BUD:BPT:*:*:NARKA COPX:*:*:NEPOT:*:*:BPT:NIT:*:*:NEPOT COPX:*:*:NEPOT:*:*:NIT:BPT:*:*:NEPOT Perhaps decoding this will help me understand the syntax for writing my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan Boerner 945550 Posted January 28, 2011 at 04:23 PM Posted January 28, 2011 at 04:23 PM FIR_COPX:*:*:BUDOP:LHBP:*:BPM:BUD:*:28000:BUDOP FIR_COPX:from any previous point/departure airport:any departure runway:for FIX BUDOP:to arrival airport LHBP:any runway:with BPM:and BUD covered by different controllers:byp[Mod - Happy Thoughts] descend:climb to FL280:name of the rule is BUDOP Now try the rest by yourself Stephan Boerner VATEUD - ATC Training Director EuroScope Board of Designers | GVCCS Beta Tester EuroScope Quick Start Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Killins 897126 Posted January 31, 2011 at 02:15 AM Author Posted January 31, 2011 at 02:15 AM Hi all, I've been trying to wrap my way around understanding this section of the ESE. I am not at all familiar with what it is even for, as it seems to be something that we in CZWG have never encountered, and having reviewed several of my neighbours ESE, they don't either. All I can grasp is that it has something to do with identifying the points of handoffs between different sectors (COPX between internal sectors; and FIR.COPX between neighbouring ACCs) Please try to explain the purpose/concept of the COPX and how one goes about writing the criteria for rule building. Thank you for your time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Palmer Posted January 31, 2011 at 05:29 AM Posted January 31, 2011 at 05:29 AM FIR_COPX: are used with neighboring ARTCC that you have argeed to have planes cross an exit point at a specific altitude. Example is, your neighbor to the east needs all a/c to enter their airspace over a Fix(WP/VOR/NDB/INT) at FL210 to Airport A, but if they are landing at Airport B, they need them at 9000 for approach procedures...and so on. Same goes for COPX...the one's I've done in euroscope for ZAN (Alaska) i primarily dealt with handoff's from Center to Approach. EDIT: they work for FIR entry (inbounds) as well as exit (outbounds) points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephan Boerner 945550 Posted January 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM Posted January 31, 2011 at 10:32 AM The main difference between COPX and FIR_COPX is the different TAG-item they are displayed in. FIR is for agreements with your neighbours, COPX is for agreements within your FIR. Apart from displaying in the TAG-item they avoid the coordination request. For example if your agreed Exit-point is at the beginning of your neighbours airspace, ES would inititate a coordination request each time you clear an aircraft to the agreed level/point, unless it matches a (FIR_)COPX. Stephan Boerner VATEUD - ATC Training Director EuroScope Board of Designers | GVCCS Beta Tester EuroScope Quick Start Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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