Nicholas Bartolotta 912967 Posted December 1, 2005 at 06:42 PM Posted December 1, 2005 at 06:42 PM I came up with an idea that I think could be a minor change, yet probably be a big help to people. I personally am constantly forgetting the ARTCC's websites (as some are .org, .net, some begin with 'z,' etc). But it's another 30 seconds going to the VATUSA page, and finding it there to click on. Why not instead create some sub-domains for the ARTCC's? It's really really easy, and the majority of hosting providers have actually a place that will set it up for you. For example, if you go to: schedules.atavirtual.com it re-routes you to the www.atavirtual.com schedules page. So in VATUSA's sense, make it like: zau.vatusa.org or zbw.vatusa.org Then just set it up to forward you to the page. It's really not as complicated as I'm probably explaining it to be, and I'd be more then happy to help set them up if your really interested. Thanks! Nick Bartolotta - ZSE Instructor, pilot at large "Just fly it on down to within a inch of the runway and let it drop in from there." - Capt. Don Lanham, ATA Airlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Steinberg 939662 Posted December 1, 2005 at 07:53 PM Posted December 1, 2005 at 07:53 PM I think it's a good idea. Really simple to do. Andrew Steinberg C-1, VATUSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Binner Posted December 1, 2005 at 08:55 PM Posted December 1, 2005 at 08:55 PM Even if the subdomain is a pseudo-pointer, would make it easier. For example, www.zjxartcc.org would STILL be hosted in the same place, but a new address of www.vatusa.org/zjx could POINT to the server when clicked on. I think its a great idea. John Binner, System Specs: MB: ASUS M5A99FX CPU: AMD FD8350FRHKBOX FX-8350 125W AM3+ Eight-Core 4.0GHz Video: Nvdia 970 Memory: 16GB DDR3 Win10 Pro 64-Bit P3D v4, PMDG, ActiveSky, GEX, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Littlejohn Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:04 PM Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:04 PM Even if the subdomain is a pseudo-pointer, would make it easier. For example, www.zjxartcc.org would STILL be hosted in the same place, but a new address of www.vatusa.org/zjx could POINT to the server when clicked on. I think its a great idea. Doing it as a subdirectory of the vatusa.org domain (as the second link above) would require a page with a redirect, which would be generate a bit more traffic. Adding it as a third tier to the primary domain (zjx.vatusa.org) would require a DNS change, which would be cleaner, and faster. But I agree.. that would be a great idea. BL. Brad Littlejohn ZLA Senior Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Bartolotta 912967 Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:16 PM Author Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:16 PM So any VATUSA senior-staff want to jump in and start on it? Nick Bartolotta - ZSE Instructor, pilot at large "Just fly it on down to within a inch of the runway and let it drop in from there." - Capt. Don Lanham, ATA Airlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Binner Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:18 PM Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:18 PM Would only need to specifiy on most domains that .org/whatever is re-directed. I can do it with my personal site without a redirect page. John Binner, System Specs: MB: ASUS M5A99FX CPU: AMD FD8350FRHKBOX FX-8350 125W AM3+ Eight-Core 4.0GHz Video: Nvdia 970 Memory: 16GB DDR3 Win10 Pro 64-Bit P3D v4, PMDG, ActiveSky, GEX, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Hare 907837 Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:29 PM Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:29 PM Not trying to be smart..but why not just save them in your FAVORITES?? Although...I could see if you use a bunch of different computers this could be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:31 PM Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:31 PM Doing it as a subdirectory of the vatusa.org domain (as the second link above) would require a page with a redirect, which would be generate a bit more traffic. Or it could be done with URL rewriting, which wouldn't require the actual folder and redirect page to be created. I actually prefer this over using subdomains, since if using subdomains, if an ARTCC changes their URL, we have to wait for DNS propagation, during which time the site is effectively down at that URL. If we use URL rewrites, changes take effect immediately. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Bartolotta 912967 Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:46 PM Author Posted December 1, 2005 at 09:46 PM Not trying to be smart..but why not just save them in your FAVORITES?? Although...I could see if you use a bunch of different computers this could be an issue. Well, its not that its a pain and all, but it would just be (A) much easier and (B) not a h[Mod - Happy Thoughts]le to create... Nick Bartolotta - ZSE Instructor, pilot at large "Just fly it on down to within a inch of the runway and let it drop in from there." - Capt. Don Lanham, ATA Airlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Turner Posted December 2, 2005 at 12:31 AM Posted December 2, 2005 at 12:31 AM Not trying to be smart..but why not just save them in your FAVORITES?? Although...I could see if you use a bunch of different computers this could be an issue. Well, its not that its a pain and all, but it would just be (A) much easier and (B) not a h[Mod - Happy Thoughts]le to create... Hi guys, I'll p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] this idea on to Craig, he's handling the website right now with his team of other contributors... We'll see if we can get this going. JT Jeff "JU" Turner US Army Retired http://www.skyblueradio.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mifsud 928114 Posted December 2, 2005 at 01:11 AM Posted December 2, 2005 at 01:11 AM This is a GREAT idea! I really hope it gets going, that would make finding a website so much easier. Brad, just curious, why would it require a DNS change? I'm not sure what the VATUSA website is like, but I have a free hosting service with cpanel. It lets you set up any redirect (zob.vatusa.org) to any website you want, without having to change the DNS. Does VATUSA use something different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Thomas Posted December 2, 2005 at 01:30 AM Posted December 2, 2005 at 01:30 AM Why not just go to vatusa.org and click on the big link on the right for your ARTCC?? Jeff Thomas VP-IT https://joinava.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Bartolotta 912967 Posted December 2, 2005 at 01:44 AM Author Posted December 2, 2005 at 01:44 AM Why not just go to vatusa.org and click on the big link on the right for your ARTCC?? Like I said above, its not going to make a m[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ive difference in your life, but it certainly doesn't hurt to have them, and saves you 30 seconds... If you guys use CPanel (from your hosting provider) then it's very, very easy to do...email me if you do and aren't sure. Nick Bartolotta - ZSE Instructor, pilot at large "Just fly it on down to within a inch of the runway and let it drop in from there." - Capt. Don Lanham, ATA Airlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Miller 873677 Posted December 2, 2005 at 02:01 AM Posted December 2, 2005 at 02:01 AM It takes about 2 seconds to set up a subdomain to forward to another, it's a very simple task. Andrew Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Williams Posted December 2, 2005 at 01:18 PM Posted December 2, 2005 at 01:18 PM Why not just go to vatusa.org and click on the big link on the right for your ARTCC?? Like I said above, its not going to make a m[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ive difference in your life, but it certainly doesn't hurt to have them, and saves you 30 seconds... If you guys use CPanel (from your hosting provider) then it's very, very easy to do...email me if you do and aren't sure. The people running the site are well aware of how to do this, don't worry. They obviously have their reasons for not doing it though. I have never had a problem adding them to my favorites. Takes all of two seconds. Thank you, Lance W. Hundreds of Real-World Airlines and Routes for you to fly at www.ndbair.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Bartolotta 912967 Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:08 PM Author Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:08 PM Why not just go to vatusa.org and click on the big link on the right for your ARTCC?? Like I said above, its not going to make a m[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ive difference in your life, but it certainly doesn't hurt to have them, and saves you 30 seconds... If you guys use CPanel (from your hosting provider) then it's very, very easy to do...email me if you do and aren't sure. The people running the site are well aware of how to do this, don't worry. They obviously have their reasons for not doing it though. I have never had a problem adding them to my favorites. Takes all of two seconds. God forbid I offer to help... Nick Bartolotta - ZSE Instructor, pilot at large "Just fly it on down to within a inch of the runway and let it drop in from there." - Capt. Don Lanham, ATA Airlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Williams Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:13 PM Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:13 PM Why not just go to vatusa.org and click on the big link on the right for your ARTCC?? Like I said above, its not going to make a m[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ive difference in your life, but it certainly doesn't hurt to have them, and saves you 30 seconds... If you guys use CPanel (from your hosting provider) then it's very, very easy to do...email me if you do and aren't sure. The people running the site are well aware of how to do this, don't worry. They obviously have their reasons for not doing it though. I have never had a problem adding them to my favorites. Takes all of two seconds. God forbid I offer to help... God forbit, I offer my opinion. Thank you, Lance W. Hundreds of Real-World Airlines and Routes for you to fly at www.ndbair.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Black Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:22 PM Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:22 PM (edited) Why not just go to vatusa.org and click on the big link on the right for your ARTCC?? Like I said above, its not going to make a m[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ive difference in your life, but it certainly doesn't hurt to have them, and saves you 30 seconds... If you guys use CPanel (from your hosting provider) then it's very, very easy to do...email me if you do and aren't sure. The people running the site are well aware of how to do this, don't worry. They obviously have their reasons for not doing it though. I have never had a problem adding them to my favorites. Takes all of two seconds. well...I think its great that you're offering to help Nick! Can anyone elaborate on what reasons thay have for not making it even easier - other than the ole' "we have our reasons" answer? I think its a great idea Nick, yes, adding to my favorites or going to the VATUSA site are pretty simple, but we're not hurting anyone by doing as you suggested. Edited December 2, 2005 at 03:27 PM by Guest Respectfully, Chad Black Click here to see my 12 years worth of Flight Sim Screenshots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Williams Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:24 PM Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:24 PM Thanks for your diplomatic imput Mr. Williams. Confused Care to elaborate on what reasons thay have for not making it even easier? I think its a great idea Nick, yes, adding to my favorites or going to the VATUSA site are pretty simple, but we're not killing a horse by doing as you suggested. Your welcome Mr. Black. Anything to help you. As to why. Your guess is as good as mine. I have nothing to do with it. I'm only offering my thoughts and opinions, just as everyone else here is. Thank you, Lance W. Hundreds of Real-World Airlines and Routes for you to fly at www.ndbair.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Black Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:32 PM Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:32 PM Thanks for your diplomatic imput Mr. Williams. Confused Care to elaborate on what reasons thay have for not making it even easier? I think its a great idea Nick, yes, adding to my favorites or going to the VATUSA site are pretty simple, but we're not killing a horse by doing as you suggested. Your welcome Mr. Black. Anything to help you. As to why. Your guess is as good as mine. I have nothing to do with it. I'm only offering my thoughts and opinions, just as everyone else here is. Arent you the VATUSA webmaster? I just read that were given that job not very long ago... Respectfully, Chad Black Click here to see my 12 years worth of Flight Sim Screenshots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Williams Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:42 PM Posted December 2, 2005 at 03:42 PM Arent you the VATUSA webmaster? I just read that were given that job not very long ago... Nope and I wasn't "Given" anything. I earned the "job" after a careful screening of all applicants. After working in that capacity for a couple months, I resigned for reasons I don't care to discuss here. Thank you, Lance W. Hundreds of Real-World Airlines and Routes for you to fly at www.ndbair.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hill 810430 Posted December 2, 2005 at 04:46 PM Posted December 2, 2005 at 04:46 PM ...I wasn't "given" anything. I earned the "job".... You stand corrected, Chad. Respectfully, Daniel Hill 810430 [Just Plain Ole' Dan] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Black Posted December 2, 2005 at 10:26 PM Posted December 2, 2005 at 10:26 PM lol... my up-most sincere apologies... I meant nothing by it. Just a bad choice of words I guess. Respectfully, Chad Black Click here to see my 12 years worth of Flight Sim Screenshots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Williams Posted December 2, 2005 at 11:04 PM Posted December 2, 2005 at 11:04 PM lol... my up-most sincere apologies... I meant nothing by it. Just a bad choice of words I guess. Actually, I won the lottery Thank you, Lance W. Hundreds of Real-World Airlines and Routes for you to fly at www.ndbair.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mifsud 928114 Posted December 2, 2005 at 11:18 PM Posted December 2, 2005 at 11:18 PM Does anyone know what the reasons are? I'd like to know why, it seems like a GREAT idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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