David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 14, 2011 at 08:00 PM Posted June 14, 2011 at 08:00 PM (edited) Madame et Monsieur, It started with the NYARTCC forums, went to VATUK, and now let's welcome it to the main stage! I know a lot of people are frustrated with the fact that a program newer than Servinfo is (data wise) more out of date than the original client. Well, I got angry and decided to do something about it. Rather than copy the things out of the Servinfo files into VATSpy (some things are out of date), I've gathered some suggestions in some places and in others wound up using the update anyway. For the next two weeks, we are a team; you suggest, I implement and will update the list as things are updated. Please keep in mind I'm in the Eastern Time Zone (USA) and I might not get back to your request right away, but I will do my best. I haven't kept the list entirely up to date (some minor things are missing, but the core problems are listed below), but here's a general review of major things: FINISHED: Airports: Closed Oslo-Fornebu Added Kai Tak (<-----Be quiet Oliveira) Added Shanghai Pudong Added Oxford Added Northwest Florida Beaches Closed Panama, FL Included the British Airports/Alias Update file Relocated Bangkok-Suvarnabhumi Added Tehran IK Intl Added Dubai World Central/Al Maktoum and OMDM Fixed Bermuda (now you can log on as BDA_XXX and it will show up) Changed ICAO for Georgetown, Guyana Added Lukla, Nepal Included Caribbean Airports Update File by Gray Taylor Corrected all Northern CT and KPHL (+sats) that should be in ZNY; they are now listed under KZNY and not KZDC/KBOS Corrected all Southern KZJX airports to be listed under ZJX instead of ZMA Added the new Durban King Shaka Airport, renamed Johannesburg to the current "OR Tambo Intl" Added some small uncontrolled fields in PHL airspace Added several small airports worldwide (don't get too much traffic) Included Russian/Middle Asian Airports Update Added KMJX (for Freudeman) Added EGTO, EGKH, Closed EGTH, deleted RAF Manston, and relocated Chichester and Kent Intl. Renamed Nottingham/East Midlands back to East Midlands Added BEL_APP (For Belfast TMA) Updated ALL Cuban Airports Fixed formatting of Egyptian Airports Added Canadian Airports Update (courtesy of Mr. Tim Barber) Added major [missing] Chinese Airports Boundaries/Labels: Fixed ZMA, ZMA Oceanic, ZHU Oceanic, and N[Mod - Happy Thoughts]au FIR Fix the Oceanic Sectors of ZNY (Gave northern portion of San Juan's airspace to ZNY, as per current/new boundaries, combined Manta/Joboc into ZNY Oceanic) Fixed New York Center's Boundaries Added the [fictional] African FSSs Combined Gander and Moncton Centers and added a sector division line between the two FIRs Combined Gander and Shanwick Oceanic to display full control when one is offline Updated Dnipropetrovsk FIR Label Updated Eurocontrol Sectors Added Baltic Control Updated LDZO Added ENOR (master Norway Control) Merged EDLL and EDFF into EDGG Langen FIR Updated Greenland/BICC/Iceland Situation and boundaries Alias: Fixed the ZHU FSS Alias ON MY LIST: Airports: None Pending Boundaries/Labels: Condense Potomac Sector into a label similar to ZNY's N90 Fix Double Boundaries in Asian and Eastern European regions Alias: None Pending Let's shoot for a release date of June 26th, because after taht I'll be away for six weeks. And if it is not finished, I won't release it. This is an UNOFFICIAL update for now, at least until Ross has beta'd (I made my own verb!) it and likes what he sees. POST Away and Thanks! *If you wish to send me files, e-mail me at dmm200(at)aol.com Edited June 20, 2011 at 10:10 PM by Guest Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Grauers Posted June 14, 2011 at 08:06 PM Posted June 14, 2011 at 08:06 PM I think I posted this to you on the vatuk forums but anyway Adding ESMM CTR Redrawing BIRD ctr Updating several Swedish ICAO codes (ESTA, ESTL, ESNZ from the top of my head) adding Swedish AFIS fields (Falköping, Lidköping, Oskarshamn, to name a few) Erhm, I have a feeling I'm forgetting stuff but I'll get back to you with that Johan Grauers Event Coordinator - vACC Scandinavia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 14, 2011 at 08:52 PM Author Posted June 14, 2011 at 08:52 PM I think I posted this to you on the vatuk forums but anyway Adding ESMM CTR Redrawing BIRD ctr Updating several Swedish ICAO codes (ESTA, ESTL, ESNZ from the top of my head) adding Swedish AFIS fields (Falköping, Lidköping, Oskarshamn, to name a few) Erhm, I have a feeling I'm forgetting stuff but I'll get back to you with that I need a map of BIRD and what goes to the surrounding areas after the "box" is re-drawn, but the rest is done (and that is all you said last time ). Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Tim Barber Posted June 15, 2011 at 04:40 AM Board of Governors Posted June 15, 2011 at 04:40 AM The Toronto FIR added all airports within their airspace to the Vatspy database. I can send you that update if relevent. Tim Barber VATSIM President Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted June 15, 2011 at 04:50 AM Posted June 15, 2011 at 04:50 AM Cuba could use a face lift the airspace shows right, just missing a lot of airports. most arent used much but a couple of them that do get traffic do, MUCC is a popular one that isnt listed. right now VATSPY only has 17 airports listed in Cuba can get enroute chart from http://aeronav.faa.gov/index.asp?xml=aeronav/applications/VFR/chartlist_wac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Grauers Posted June 15, 2011 at 03:56 PM Posted June 15, 2011 at 03:56 PM I think I posted this to you on the vatuk forums but anyway Adding ESMM CTR Redrawing BIRD ctr Updating several Swedish ICAO codes (ESTA, ESTL, ESNZ from the top of my head) adding Swedish AFIS fields (Falköping, Lidköping, Oskarshamn, to name a few) Erhm, I have a feeling I'm forgetting stuff but I'll get back to you with that I need a map of BIRD and what goes to the surrounding areas after the "box" is re-drawn, but the rest is done (and that is all you said last time ). Didn't I send you a picture? Anyway, try this http://forum.vaccsca.org/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=63 Basically the south and east sector=Bird CTR while the others (west and north) are BIRD_FSS (that is acctually called BICC_FSS if I remember correctly. The issue in the old file is that the south east triangle of the W FSS sector (the yellow one) is a part of BIRD ctr according to vatspy. Johan Grauers Event Coordinator - vACC Scandinavia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 15, 2011 at 05:33 PM Author Posted June 15, 2011 at 05:33 PM I think I posted this to you on the vatuk forums but anyway Adding ESMM CTR Redrawing BIRD ctr Updating several Swedish ICAO codes (ESTA, ESTL, ESNZ from the top of my head) adding Swedish AFIS fields (Falköping, Lidköping, Oskarshamn, to name a few) Erhm, I have a feeling I'm forgetting stuff but I'll get back to you with that I need a map of BIRD and what goes to the surrounding areas after the "box" is re-drawn, but the rest is done (and that is all you said last time ). Didn't I send you a picture? Anyway, try this http://forum.vaccsca.org/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=63 Basically the south and east sector=Bird CTR while the others (west and north) are BIRD_FSS (that is acctually called BICC_FSS if I remember correctly. The issue in the old file is that the south east triangle of the W FSS sector (the yellow one) is a part of BIRD ctr according to vatspy. PM me the actual message if you can lol. Ernesto, I added MUCC already, and I'll facelift the rest for 'ya; my Cuban boss at INTERSim made me lol. Tim, I'd appreciate it if you sent that to me as well, thanks! Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycliffe Barrett Posted June 16, 2011 at 02:36 PM Posted June 16, 2011 at 02:36 PM David Not sure if you have done Newquay which has been renamed,. it was St Mawgan and is now EGHQ Wycliffe Wycliffe Barrett: C3 Controller "if god meant for us to fly, he would have given us tickets" Mel Brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 16, 2011 at 08:08 PM Author Posted June 16, 2011 at 08:08 PM David Not sure if you have done Newquay which has been renamed,. it was St Mawgan and is now EGHQ Wycliffe Yup that's on the VATUK thread. Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Manuel Manigault Posted June 16, 2011 at 10:32 PM Board of Governors Posted June 16, 2011 at 10:32 PM David, how will the Potomac condensed display be activated? Will it be callsign dependent? Manuel Manigault VP, Americas Region VATSIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 16, 2011 at 11:28 PM Author Posted June 16, 2011 at 11:28 PM David, how will the Potomac condensed display be activated? Will it be callsign dependent? I'm not sure, I'm trying to work it out, but it's callsign dependent as of now. However, it might be one of the last things I do as it requires a lot of trial and error. Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Manuel Manigault Posted June 16, 2011 at 11:58 PM Board of Governors Posted June 16, 2011 at 11:58 PM Ok. As of now, we do not have a designated callsign for the combined Potomac. Most controllers will pick DCA_APP and place in their comments that they are working the entire PCT, but DCA_APP could also signify just the MTV portion of the Potomac. Controllers could also sign in as BWI_APP, IAD_APP, or RIC_APP and state in their comments that they are working the combined PCT as long as they are certified to work it combined. Let me know if we need to pick a specific callsign to make it work. More than likely it would have to be in xxx_x_APP format. Manuel Manigault VP, Americas Region VATSIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 17, 2011 at 12:35 AM Author Posted June 17, 2011 at 12:35 AM Yeah something like PCT_X_XXX would work (though I got it to work combined even without this, however it would always change the designation over the top of the circle). In NY, we use NY_XXX_APP/DEP to display it. Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Geckler Posted June 17, 2011 at 01:13 AM Posted June 17, 2011 at 01:13 AM It would most likely be displayed as DCA_x_APP, not PCT_x_APP. Since PCT isn't an airport, it can be confusing to some pilots. Ryan Geckler - GK | Former VATUSA3 - Division Training Manager VATSIM Minneapolis ARTCC | FAA Miami ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 17, 2011 at 04:45 AM Author Posted June 17, 2011 at 04:45 AM It would most likely be displayed as DCA_x_APP, not PCT_x_APP. Since PCT isn't an airport, it can be confusing to some pilots. Then that completely defeats the purpose of changing anything... PCT is the abbreviation for "Potomac Condensed TRACON" as you know. The circle on the map would encomp[Mod - Happy Thoughts] BWI, IAD, and DCA , and the ATIS would read what the controller serves. N90 already confuses enough pilots as it is in NY, but we get by. The final decision is up to you guys. Plus, wouldn't the current situation be confusing as well? I mean, one on BWI_APP can be serving IAD and DCA as well... Trust me, the situation will be no different, but I'm not forcing anything here. Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Moskovitch 1180169 Posted June 17, 2011 at 07:06 AM Posted June 17, 2011 at 07:06 AM Can't you add FALE as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 17, 2011 at 03:20 PM Author Posted June 17, 2011 at 03:20 PM Can't you add FALE as well? Read the list lol... Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Manuel Manigault Posted June 18, 2011 at 12:32 AM Board of Governors Posted June 18, 2011 at 12:32 AM It would most likely be displayed as DCA_x_APP, not PCT_x_APP. Since PCT isn't an airport, it can be confusing to some pilots. Then that completely defeats the purpose of changing anything... PCT is the abbreviation for "Potomac Condensed TRACON" as you know. The circle on the map would encomp[Mod - Happy Thoughts] BWI, IAD, and DCA , and the ATIS would read what the controller serves. N90 already confuses enough pilots as it is in NY, but we get by. The final decision is up to you guys. Plus, wouldn't the current situation be confusing as well? I mean, one on BWI_APP can be serving IAD and DCA as well... Trust me, the situation will be no different, but I'm not forcing anything here. The PCT used to be combined using DC_PCT_APP, but that callsign has not been used since 2008. Manuel Manigault VP, Americas Region VATSIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 18, 2011 at 02:04 AM Author Posted June 18, 2011 at 02:04 AM Yeah, that wouldn't make a difference to the display anyway...it would only be the same as it is now. Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 20, 2011 at 06:16 PM Author Posted June 20, 2011 at 06:16 PM Mr. Grauers, I finally worked out Greenland/Iceland for you Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 21, 2011 at 09:23 PM Author Posted June 21, 2011 at 09:23 PM I'm still waiting for more Suggestions from all continents. Please keep posting! Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Grauers Posted June 22, 2011 at 10:20 AM Posted June 22, 2011 at 10:20 AM Lovely David, cheers Johan Grauers Event Coordinator - vACC Scandinavia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 23, 2011 at 05:37 AM Author Posted June 23, 2011 at 05:37 AM Last 4 Days for suggestions. Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Bates 890314 Posted June 25, 2011 at 04:35 AM Posted June 25, 2011 at 04:35 AM Indonesia requires a complete overhaul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Malinowski 1087539 Posted June 25, 2011 at 07:08 PM Author Posted June 25, 2011 at 07:08 PM Indonesia requires a complete overhaul What needs to be done? Current occasional pilot Former New York ARTCC Level 5 Approach Controller | Former Jacksonville ARTCC and vatUK SE/EGLL RTS Visitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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