Robert Bressert Posted October 21, 2011 at 06:14 PM Posted October 21, 2011 at 06:14 PM What are these RTEs in and out of San Juan? How do I program my default FSX flight planner with waypoints and/or my ISG1 FMC? For example: KMIA - TJSF - last entry in flight plan: RTE6 (SKIPS1 SKIPS BR53V RAJAY A555 ZQA A555 GTK A555 HARDE A555 IDAHO RTE6) TJSJ - TIST - preferred route: RTE2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted October 22, 2011 at 12:26 AM Posted October 22, 2011 at 12:26 AM same as airways. you enter them into the FMC the same as you would an airway. theyll also be listed in nav charts and the gps as airways. just different names to them then the normal Jet or Victor airways. youll find a lot of different names to them as you fly more outside of the US. youll even find some with single designators like "P191" (not sure if thats an actual airway, just an example of what itd look like) youll find a lot in the caribbean like that. for exame BR51V to N[Mod - Happy Thoughts]au from Miami (can be joined at SKIPS) is pronounced "Bahama Route 51 Victor" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bressert Posted October 22, 2011 at 03:04 PM Author Posted October 22, 2011 at 03:04 PM Ernesto, OK, I see what you mean. However, ISG1 FMC won't allow me to enter RTE2 or any other RTE airway into the fmc. It says "invalid entry" when I try to input it, but I can enter the waypoints from the enroute charts. So, it will work. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rodriguez Posted October 25, 2011 at 11:06 PM Posted October 25, 2011 at 11:06 PM RTE2 is not a waypoint is an airway. to use it you will need enter RTE2 on the left soft key of your point and then the destination point. Airways go on the left side of the FMC waypoints go on the right side of the FMC. Now if you are not using an FMC, you will need to type RTE2 point by point. A program that will help you build plans and export them to FSX is FSBuild. It cost money but its worth it. I am not aware of freeware that will do the same. In SJU you will see plans ending in RTE2 or 6 or whatever because planes are vectored in to ILS or the visuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bressert Posted October 26, 2011 at 02:30 AM Author Posted October 26, 2011 at 02:30 AM Juan, Yes, I understand that RTE2 is an airway and not a waypoint. When I try to enter RTE2, for example, on the left side in my ISG1 FMC, it displays "invalid entry." It doesn't matter which RTE(+#) I try to enter. To make it clear, I am not entering them on the right side where I enter a waypoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted October 26, 2011 at 03:17 AM Posted October 26, 2011 at 03:17 AM its probably just the ISG fmc not taking it right. altho i couldnt find any posts in the ISG forum of others having similar issues with these. can you post a screenshot of how you are entering it? maybe you are trying to join it from a waypoint that isnt on the airway so its not able to find it. also make sure the waypoint is the correct one if multiple waypoints are found, there may be multiple waypoints with the same name in different parts of the world. happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bressert Posted October 27, 2011 at 01:38 PM Author Posted October 27, 2011 at 01:38 PM I've posted over at the ISG forum and am awaiting a reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rodriguez Posted October 29, 2011 at 06:55 PM Posted October 29, 2011 at 06:55 PM So I dont [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ume, have you updated AIRAC's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bressert Posted October 30, 2011 at 12:18 AM Author Posted October 30, 2011 at 12:18 AM You are wise not to [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ume! No! I have not updated. I guess the question is, have they started using RTE's since the last AIRAC update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rodriguez Posted October 30, 2011 at 03:37 AM Posted October 30, 2011 at 03:37 AM what is the latest airac you have on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bressert Posted October 30, 2011 at 08:24 PM Author Posted October 30, 2011 at 08:24 PM Cycle 1013. It was good through Jan. 12, 2011. So it's almost a year old. But, surely RTEs have been around a long time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rodriguez Posted October 31, 2011 at 11:46 AM Posted October 31, 2011 at 11:46 AM i just noticed something, what is the last waypoint you enter when you do RTE6 (SKIPS1 SKIPS BR53V RAJAY A555 ZQA A555 GTK A555 HARDE A555 IDAHO RTE6). You should enter SJU at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bressert Posted October 31, 2011 at 01:56 PM Author Posted October 31, 2011 at 01:56 PM Well, SKIPS1 SKIPS BR53V RAJAY A555 ZQA A555 GTK A555 HARDE A555 IDAHO RTE6, is a RW route from Flightaware and it didn't have SJU at the end of the route, however, it doesn't matter as far as the ISG! fmc. It won't accept any RTE airway. I'm still waiting for Ernie at the ISG1 forum to answer my question. I've been flying around in the Caribbean with UPCVAC.com and I've just entered all the waypoints of the RTE in the default FSX flightplanner. So, I haven't even been using the ISG1 fmc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Geckler Posted October 31, 2011 at 05:20 PM Posted October 31, 2011 at 05:20 PM RTE5: BQN ROBLL PLING RTE6: IDAHO ROBLL BEANO CORAF SJU CHAKA PALCO STT Taken from the the NavData. Ryan Geckler - GK | Former VATUSA3 - Division Training Manager VATSIM Minneapolis ARTCC | FAA Miami ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bressert Posted October 31, 2011 at 06:03 PM Author Posted October 31, 2011 at 06:03 PM Right! I understand that each of the RTE airways contain waypoints. So, instead of entering the airway (RTEs) in my ISG1 fmc I'll just enter each waypoint. That'll work, not just quite the way it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Rodriguez Posted November 2, 2011 at 07:55 PM Posted November 2, 2011 at 07:55 PM The reason why it does not show the last WP is because of the approach they use, usually is visual, however in order for the FMC to calculate the right path of flight it must have a start point to an end point. You can pick the route and then select an approach course. You always need a WP after a route. Try RT6 to SJU and see what happens. As a suggestion, update your DB with the latest DB, most common errors are due to DB deletions and mistakes. Remember, just because a route is posted 'as is' does not mean is complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Bressert Posted November 3, 2011 at 01:12 AM Author Posted November 3, 2011 at 01:12 AM Juan, That's exactly what I was doing wrong--not putting a waypoint after the route. Now it works! Thanks! DB? Yep! I need to get up to date. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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