Diego Vasquez Posted September 16, 2013 at 03:19 PM Posted September 16, 2013 at 03:19 PM Quick question, anybody knows of a place to find enroute charts for western europe like those found in https://www.fltplan.com/AwMainToApproachPlates.exe?a=1 "Full-Featured Enroute Charts with Current Weather"? I am having a hard time for finding jetways that properly connect, when leaving NATs eastbound into airport STARs. * Vatsim P1 * | https://vatstats.net/pilots/1031173 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duarte Folgado 1106197 Posted September 16, 2013 at 03:36 PM Posted September 16, 2013 at 03:36 PM Hello Diego, Apart from payware solutions like Jeppesen you have also http://skyvector.com/website. It contains VFR, Low and High design. Duarte Folgado Instructor (I1) & Certified Pilot (P4) Lisboa FIR Director (ACCPT3) Portugal vACC -VATEUD - VATSIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Grauers Posted September 16, 2013 at 05:55 PM Posted September 16, 2013 at 05:55 PM Also when overflying or flying into the UK or Ireland look at the NATS standard route docomeent, it's available from the NATS AIS (google and you shall find) and it gives you standard routes from all entry points to all major airports and all exit points of the Ireland/UK airspace, it is very handy when doing route planning and saves a load of time. Johan Grauers Event Coordinator - vACC Scandinavia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pike Posted September 16, 2013 at 07:53 PM Posted September 16, 2013 at 07:53 PM There is a program called simSRD that presents this data in graphical form - much easier to use. Eurocontrol high level charts are available here. I understand low level routes were to follow but I don't know if they are available yet. Mike Pike VATSIM-UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Vasquez Posted September 16, 2013 at 08:27 PM Author Posted September 16, 2013 at 08:27 PM Thanks! All useful suggestions. Standard routes? I love those! Side question now, Doing a quick look at Skyvector, most of Ireland has some waypoints but there are virtually no high airways? Yesterday I was trying to fly to Dublin, and [without this info today] I was unable to find any airways connecting to it... no wonder! I suspect the reason may not be technical in nature. * Vatsim P1 * | https://vatstats.net/pilots/1031173 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Pike Posted September 16, 2013 at 10:35 PM Posted September 16, 2013 at 10:35 PM I think they call it "free flight" or something like that. Ireland and Portugal are two of the areas I know of where there are no high airways anymore - you just plan direct from entry-point to exit-point. Mike Pike VATSIM-UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duarte Folgado 1106197 Posted September 17, 2013 at 05:34 PM Posted September 17, 2013 at 05:34 PM Hello, I can't speak for Ireland as I don't have full information about it, but I believe it's a system similar here in Portugal. The Free Route Airspace (FRA) allows operators more flexibility in flight planning: Eurocontrol FRA Info As Michael said allows you in case of overflying making "entry-exit" directs. In Portugal the important to highlight is: "Within the FRA area there will be no limitations on the use of “DCT “. Overflight traffic should plan directly from FRA airspace entry point to FRA airspace exit point. Arriving traffic should plan directly from FRA airspace entry point to the STAR initial waypoint. Departing traffic should plan directly from SID final waypoint to the FRA airspace exit point." I hope that helped, Duarte Duarte Folgado Instructor (I1) & Certified Pilot (P4) Lisboa FIR Director (ACCPT3) Portugal vACC -VATEUD - VATSIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Wand Posted September 18, 2013 at 04:01 PM Posted September 18, 2013 at 04:01 PM "Within the FRA area there will be no limitations on the use of “DCT “.Overflight traffic should plan directly from FRA airspace entry point to FRA airspace exit point. Arriving traffic should plan directly from FRA airspace entry point to the STAR initial waypoint. Departing traffic should plan directly from SID final waypoint to the FRA airspace exit point." So traffic inside the country basically files "SID DCT STAR"? Must give the guys doing the procedure design one hell of a headache unless the SIDs / STARs get certain restrictions to untangle traffic flows. VATSIM Instructor (I1) / ACCSUI2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duarte Folgado 1106197 Posted September 18, 2013 at 04:40 PM Posted September 18, 2013 at 04:40 PM "Within the FRA area there will be no limitations on the use of “DCT “.Overflight traffic should plan directly from FRA airspace entry point to FRA airspace exit point. Arriving traffic should plan directly from FRA airspace entry point to the STAR initial waypoint. Departing traffic should plan directly from SID final waypoint to the FRA airspace exit point." So traffic inside the country basically files "SID DCT STAR"? Must give the guys doing the procedure design one hell of a headache unless the SIDs / STARs get certain restrictions to untangle traffic flows. Hi Thomas, affirm! Actually the most used are RNAVs with some discret restrictions. One example of domestic route [Mod - Happy Thoughts]uming 03 in LPPT and 35 in LPPR (INBOM2N) INBOM DCT ABLEG (ABLEG2C) Duarte Folgado Instructor (I1) & Certified Pilot (P4) Lisboa FIR Director (ACCPT3) Portugal vACC -VATEUD - VATSIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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