Sasta Sudhakaran 1278918 Posted January 20, 2014 at 07:37 PM Posted January 20, 2014 at 07:37 PM When flying on vatsim and instructed by the atc to do the following: descend to FL200 20nm before TNT. How do I do that in the NGX? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastien Bartosz Posted January 20, 2014 at 08:19 PM Posted January 20, 2014 at 08:19 PM You could add a custom waypoint into the FMC using for example the Place Bearing Distance method. For example: if your next 2 waypoints are WELIN TNT and there is a 300° track and 56 miles between them. Then you could add a custom waypoint being WELIN300.0/036.0 into the FMC and put that in between WELIN and TNT. It could eventually be TNT150.0/020.0 Then you would put FL200 beside that waypoint on the legs page then fly with VNAV. New York ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Grafelman Posted January 21, 2014 at 01:47 AM Posted January 21, 2014 at 01:47 AM It gets more fun with the fix isn't on the route. For example, take the BARET4 arrival into KSAN. If you're coming in from TNP/EED/PKE, the crossing restriction is "cross two five miles northeast of the Poggi VOR at and maintain one two thousand." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hawton Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:14 AM Posted January 21, 2014 at 11:14 AM It gets more fun with the fix isn't on the route. For example, take the BARET4 arrival into KSAN. If you're coming in from TNP/EED/PKE, the crossing restriction is "cross two five miles northeast of the Poggi VOR at and maintain one two thousand." It actually is on the route. Follow it southeast of BARET . Yes, it may not be if you're landing to the west, but you could still figure out a place to drop the point in the FMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Grafelman Posted January 21, 2014 at 02:02 PM Posted January 21, 2014 at 02:02 PM It actually is on the route. Follow it southeast of BARET . Yes, it may not be if you're landing to the west, but you could still figure out a place to drop the point in the FMC.Guess I should have clarified what I meant... IFEHI is 21 NM from PGY, so the crossing restriction is just a bit before that on the leg from KARRO to IFEHI. That point, however, isn't depicted on the chart by any radial from PGY. To make it easy on any pilot who gets confused over that, I usually just re-issue it as "cross IFEHI at and maintain..." and call it a day. However, I'm still curious as to how you'd put the original crossing restriction into an FMC. Guesstimate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Parkin Posted January 25, 2014 at 04:36 PM Posted January 25, 2014 at 04:36 PM When flying on vatsim and instructed by the atc to do the following: descend to FL200 20nm before TNT. How do I do that in the NGX?Thanks You're allowed to use your brain, you don't have to rely on your FMC. FLs to lose x4 = nm needed to descend. eg: FL350 - FL200 = 15 x 4 = 60nm needed. Start descending at least 80 DME the TNT VOR. We don't mind if you're level for a handful of miles beforehand. VATSIM-UK C3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Baxter 920557 Posted January 25, 2014 at 11:09 PM Posted January 25, 2014 at 11:09 PM It actually is on the route. Follow it southeast of BARET . Yes, it may not be if you're landing to the west, but you could still figure out a place to drop the point in the FMC.Guess I should have clarified what I meant... IFEHI is 21 NM from PGY, so the crossing restriction is just a bit before that on the leg from KARRO to IFEHI. That point, however, isn't depicted on the chart by any radial from PGY. To make it easy on any pilot who gets confused over that, I usually just re-issue it as "cross IFEHI at and maintain..." and call it a day. However, I'm still curious as to how you'd put the original crossing restriction into an FMC. Guesstimate? I'd imagine IFEHI010/004 would cover it, keep in mind that fixes in parenthesis are not valid for ATC use (as per the key/legend on enroute charts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Grafelman Posted January 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM Posted January 25, 2014 at 11:16 PM keep in mind that fixes in parenthesis are not valid for ATC use (as per the key/legend on enroute charts).Absolutely - it's about as valid as turning right on the LOOP6. (In other words, don't be surprised to see it on VATSIM anyway. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McCall Posted February 12, 2014 at 12:16 AM Posted February 12, 2014 at 12:16 AM I love the way a UK related question has been hijacked by our friends across the pond... Cheers Andy McCall S3 UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Grafelman Posted February 12, 2014 at 01:47 AM Posted February 12, 2014 at 01:47 AM The question posed was in regards to an ATC instruction that is not unique to the UK airspace. Thus, the discussion that followed was similarly not restricted to UK airspace. You might try actually reading threads next time before you revive them without adding any value to them. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McCall Posted February 12, 2014 at 10:22 AM Posted February 12, 2014 at 10:22 AM And the bait was taken.... Cheers Andy McCall S3 UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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