Sasta Sudhakaran 1278918 Posted January 27, 2014 at 09:57 PM Posted January 27, 2014 at 09:57 PM I usually fly in the UK and Europe but just a few days ago I was flying in the US and the Delivery Controller gave me my clearance and said "departure on XXX.XXX" What does this mean? Do I read that back to the controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wiesenfeld Posted January 27, 2014 at 09:59 PM Posted January 27, 2014 at 09:59 PM That's shorthand for "Departure frequency nnn.xx", and yes, please read it back. Once you're airborne, the tower controller will hand you off to whatever position is handling departure on that frequency. Best wishes, John John Wiesenfeld ZNY - C1 FAA IFR/SEL in a galaxy long ago and far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasta Sudhakaran 1278918 Posted January 27, 2014 at 11:12 PM Author Posted January 27, 2014 at 11:12 PM K thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Grafelman Posted January 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM Posted January 27, 2014 at 11:14 PM please read it back.It couldn't hurt. Note, however, that if you were going for realism, then you might not want to read it back (unless you didn't understand it). Busy airports (i.e. KLAX or KATL) specifically advise pilots something along the lines of: Upon receipt of ATC clearance, read back only your call sign and transponder code unless you have a question. You'll definitely want to have the frequency down, though, as it's perfectly common for you to simply hear Tower say "N123, contact depature, g'day." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott DeWoody Posted January 27, 2014 at 11:58 PM Posted January 27, 2014 at 11:58 PM Actually, you are supposed to read back anything that was not in your request for clearance.. unless the controller specifically tells you it is not needed. ie.... initial altitude, departure frequency, and squawk code. (ducking at all the @#$%# being thrown my way) Scott DeWoody CEO - American Virtual Airlines joinava dot org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Grafelman Posted January 28, 2014 at 12:08 AM Posted January 28, 2014 at 12:08 AM unless the controller specifically tells you it is not needed.... or the ATIS (KLAX) or SID (KATL) specifically tells you not to do so. Or you as the pilot feel as though you understood your clearance and decide to simply respond with "roger" and wait to see if ATC doesn't mind. (In other words, reference the discussion that played out in this thread.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hawton Posted January 28, 2014 at 01:52 PM Posted January 28, 2014 at 01:52 PM The only thing required in the US to an IFR clearance is an acknowledgement. So if you really want to keep it simple, and you understood everything, you can reply back with anything that clearly means you understood and acknowledge it, for example "Roger, XYZ123". The UK is the exact opposite, as they mandate practically everything even down to the QNH/altimeter be read back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasta Sudhakaran 1278918 Posted February 1, 2014 at 12:24 AM Author Posted February 1, 2014 at 12:24 AM Thx guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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