Dhagash Kapadia Posted November 20, 2014 at 03:54 PM Posted November 20, 2014 at 03:54 PM Hello, I've been recently experiencing some issues with vPilot and VATSIM flight planning page. I generally file a flight plan through PFPX. But recently, when I'm trying to file one, the page gives me an error - 'An unrecognized response was received from the server. It said:' Only this and no reason of the error. If I try to file through vPilot, it'll file my plan, but a moment later, when I click 'Fetch from server' button, it gives an error that no flight plan was found on the server. It works ok with FSInn and SquawkBox. But as I'm planning to use P3D, I need vPilot too. Any help would be appreciated. Here's the route I'm trying to file: Callsign - AIC144 Origin - KEWR Destination - VABB Route - DCT JEFFF J6 ALB J563 YBC DCT ALKOB DCT FOXXE/M082F320 NATT 57N040W/M082F330 NATT NETKI DCT NIBOG/N0480F330 UN552 MAC UN562 SAB/N0475F350 UL983 CUTEL UL619 VALBO L619 SUTEB UL619 PITEN Z998 RATMO Z997 SUI L980 USTIL/K0871F350 N191 GAMAN A277 DIBAT/K0859F370 A277 BANUT/N0465F370 P567 ULDUS UN319 ZDN UL125 KEBUD G208 PG G210 KC A791 DANGI/N0480F390 A791 TELEM G210 BVR DCT POKON POKO1B Aircraft - H/B77W/L Remarks - PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S1 NAV/RNVD1E2A1 DOF/141120 REG/VTALP EET/KZBW0011 CZUL0038 CZQX0137 CZQX0217 EGGX0406 EGPX0529 EISN0536 EGPX0543 EKDK0632 EHAA0634 EDVV0639 EDUU0701 EPWW0716 UKLV0803 UKBV0826 UKOV0847 UKFV0859 URRV0924 UGGG0948 UDDD1015 UBBA1022 OIIX1057 OPKR1239 VABF1323 RVR/75 PER/D RALT/CYSC CYYR BGBW EIKN EGNT RIF/TBS A419 GEVOR R205 TULKU TULK1B OIMB It happens for the reverse route too. Any help will be appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted November 20, 2014 at 04:05 PM Board of Governors Posted November 20, 2014 at 04:05 PM You are most likely using too many characters in your flight plan. viewtopic.php?f=132&t=66191&p=474500#p474500 Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted November 20, 2014 at 04:10 PM Posted November 20, 2014 at 04:10 PM Dhagash, when it works in SB or FSInn, do the route or remarks get truncated? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhagash Kapadia Posted November 20, 2014 at 04:54 PM Author Posted November 20, 2014 at 04:54 PM Yes, in Squawkbox, route gets truncated, but in FSInn the route remains as it is, the remarks field gets shortened. But anyway, I saw another guy flying the same destination with a slightly different route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted November 20, 2014 at 06:35 PM Board of Governors Posted November 20, 2014 at 06:35 PM Suggest reducing the number of characters in your flight plan (I recommend shortening the remarks) to conform to the maximum number allowed on the network. Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted November 20, 2014 at 06:36 PM Posted November 20, 2014 at 06:36 PM I will look into whether or not there is a way for vPilot to know when the flight plan gets rejected by the server due to size so that it can alert the user. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhagash Kapadia Posted November 20, 2014 at 08:34 PM Author Posted November 20, 2014 at 08:34 PM Thanks, please advise when done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Norton 1241275 Posted November 21, 2014 at 07:27 AM Posted November 21, 2014 at 07:27 AM I would advise against using the "Send to VATSIM" function within PFPX. It has a nasty habit of stuffing the remarks section to the point where the flight plan exceeds the character limit. Make your remarks as brief as possible, including only information that the controller needs to know. You don't need Red Bull to get your wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Ferran Posted November 30, 2014 at 04:55 PM Posted November 30, 2014 at 04:55 PM I would advise against using the "Send to VATSIM" function within PFPX. It has a nasty habit of stuffing the remarks section to the point where the flight plan exceeds the character limit. Make your remarks as brief as possible, including only information that the controller needs to know. I must disagree, the information PFPX puts in the remark section is, or can be very important for controllers, until we have the ICAO flight plan format, PFPX is forced to put some informations in the remarks, such as the PBN. Dhagash, remove the EET/ section in the remarks if you don't have enought space left. vSMR Plugin for EuroScope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Walsh Posted November 30, 2014 at 05:59 PM Posted November 30, 2014 at 05:59 PM I would advise against using the "Send to VATSIM" function within PFPX. It has a nasty habit of stuffing the remarks section to the point where the flight plan exceeds the character limit. Make your remarks as brief as possible, including only information that the controller needs to know. I must disagree, the information PFPX puts in the remark section is, or can be very important for controllers, until we have the ICAO flight plan format, PFPX is forced to put some informations in the remarks, such as the PBN. Dhagash, remove the EET/ section in the remarks if you don't have enought space left. VATSIM doesn't use the ICAO flight plan that I am aware. The remarks section really only need to be if you are voice capable. All other stuff is really useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted December 25, 2014 at 04:12 AM Posted December 25, 2014 at 04:12 AM Unfortunately, the server does not return any sort of error message when filing a flight plan fails due to its length. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wiesenfeld Posted December 25, 2014 at 02:40 PM Posted December 25, 2014 at 02:40 PM As someone who controls the NYC airspace fairly frequently and so would be called upon to provide the initial clearance for this flight, please allow me to suggest that this flight plan would have to be modified by ATC as follows: JFK1.GREKI ALB then as filed That is, Kennedy One Departure, radar vectors GREKI direct ALB then as filed. JEFFF isn't one of the preferred JFK exits. Also, I am unclear what part of Remarks - PBN/A1B1C1D1L1O1S1 NAV/RNVD1E2A1 DOF/141120 REG/VTALP EET/KZBW0011 CZUL0038 CZQX0137 CZQX0217 EGGX0406 EGPX0529 EISN0536 EGPX0543 EKDK0632 EHAA0634 EDVV0639 EDUU0701 EPWW0716 UKLV0803 UKBV0826 UKOV0847 UKFV0859 URRV0924 UGGG0948 UDDD1015 UBBA1022 OIIX1057 OPKR1239 VABF1323 RVR/75 PER/D RALT/CYSC CYYR BGBW EIKN EGNT RIF/TBS A419 GEVOR R205 TULKU TULK1B OIMB helps provide service to this flight. I'm guessing that this has significance within the ICAO context. Is this kind of data required on VATSIM in some regions? Best wishes to all for a happy holiday season and healthy 2015. John Wiesenfeld John Wiesenfeld ZNY - C1 FAA IFR/SEL in a galaxy long ago and far away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachary Crown 1297038 Posted December 31, 2014 at 06:06 AM Posted December 31, 2014 at 06:06 AM Hello, I seem to be having the same problem, I've tried filing on the pre-file page, and on vpilot. It says that It filed, but when I go and ask for IFR clearance the ATC says he doesn't see a flightplan filed for me. I know for sure I'm not over the character limit also. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted December 31, 2014 at 11:34 AM Board of Governors Posted December 31, 2014 at 11:34 AM Can you post the contents of your route and comments field here? I'm wondering if it's an issue with special characters. Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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