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Aleksi Laine
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Hello,

 

at least since the update where the aircraft configuration detection was added, I've seen this weird behavior. Aircraft disappear, only to reappear some seconds later. This might have happened earlier as well, but not with any version last year.

 

Example: after arrival at Toronto, I was taxiing behind an Air Canada 777, and during the 5 minutes I was behind him, he disappeared 3 times. Every time he reappeared, it triggered the touchdown smoke effect.

 

Also, if there's an aircraft that my model matching rules aren't absolutely sure of, then these disappearances can cause the aircraft to change. So far I've only seen livery changes, but for example one time I was next to an American 737. When he began to push back, he disappeared and returned two seconds later as an Alaskan 737, still pushing.

 

I've also had many unhandled .NET framework exceptions coming from vPilot, and this has definitely only happened after the configuration update, and the error log says something about "config". I don't have the log to attach here now, but I can do that when I get it next time. It gives you the option to "Continue" or "Quit", and there seems to be no problem after pressing "Continue".

 

Thanks,

Aleksi

Aleksi Laine

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Aircraft disappearing and reappearing would normally be caused by network lag causing vPilot to think the aircraft has logged off. You should run vPilot in debug mode and when an aircraft disappears, you'll see an entry in the debug window messages that gives the reason for the disconnect.

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Okay I've made a printscreen about a B763 in KIAD. ( You can see left and right nav and beacon lights. ) I have this problem in many times in Europe too. I can remember something like this among others in Oslo/NAX 738, in Alicante/772

Which AI pack is recommended ? ( Sometimes I can see that plane, that before that not, so probably it's not a model match problem. )

 

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I've had a very similar in the past both on VATSIM and on Pilot Edge. The problem turned out to be 3rd party addon scenery. Once I removed the suspect scenery I could see the aircraft models again. In this case it was in SOCAL anytime I was near KLGB. It was the addon scenery for KLGB that was the culprit.

 

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I've had a very similar in the past both on VATSIM and on Pilot Edge. The problem turned out to be 3rd party addon scenery. Once I removed the suspect scenery I could see the aircraft models again. In this case it was in SOCAL anytime I was near KLGB. It was the addon scenery for KLGB that was the culprit.

 

Dave

 

That's right ! i've deleted my "wrong" scenery too, and the planes were there. In this case this is a very very big problem with vPilot. I tired with FAIB aircraft models, but they were wrong too. What can we do ?

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I've had a very similar in the past both on VATSIM and on Pilot Edge. The problem turned out to be 3rd party addon scenery. Once I removed the suspect scenery I could see the aircraft models again. In this case it was in SOCAL anytime I was near KLGB. It was the addon scenery for KLGB that was the culprit.

 

Dave

 

That's right ! i've deleted my "wrong" scenery too, and the planes were there. In this case this is a very very big problem with vPilot. I tired with FAIB aircraft models, but they were wrong too. What can we do ?

 

What do you mean when you say this is a problem with vPilot? Are you saying it only occurs when you use vPilot and not other clients like SB or FSInn?

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Hi Ross,

 

Just to be clear, when I had this problem, it occurred regardless of the client being used. It's a problem with something in certain scenery files NOT with any client. I don't know exactly what the problem is but it's scenery related. If I have Shez Ansari's latest KLGB scenery active it will cause this issue anywhere near LGB, as far north as VNY, in fact.

 

Dave

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Since it's not a client issue, have you contacted the author(s) of the faulty scenery? I, like Ross, was taken aback by the statement about a big problem with vPilot appearing here in the vPilot forum where this is a scenery issue.

Don Desfosse
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Okay, scenery issue, but not with 1 scenery ! How could I write about this problem singly to Aerosoft, FSDT, Simwings, Flightbeam Studios, IMAGINE SIM and many freeware sceneries... With Sqawkbox I didn't have this problem. I can't understand how can sceneries generate this problem. Probably altitude problem ?

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Okay, scenery issue, but not with 1 scenery ! How could I write about this problem singly to Aerosoft, FSDT, Simwings, Flightbeam Studios, IMAGINE SIM and many freeware sceneries... With Sqawkbox I didn't have this problem. I can't understand how can sceneries generate this problem. Probably altitude problem ?

 

Hold on ... you're saying it's a scenery issue, but you're also saying you didn't have this issue with Squawkbox.

 

Another user in this thread, David Paige, is saying he has the problem regardless of client.

 

Can you, David Papp, confirm that the problem goes away when you use Squawkbox? (You would need to try it again with Squawkbox to confirm this conclusively ... don't just go from memory.)

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So, it was a bit interesting.

With SB I saw only the shadows of the aircrafts.

With vPilot + VIP Model set only the shadows again.

But I tried with vPilot + FSX Default Aircraft and I saw every single aircraft, of course only the white A321, B738, etc ....

So the problem is probably with old models.

 

So I downloaded FAIB B738 for FSX and a RYR livery. And WOW there was that aircraft.

So when I download ICE AI for FSX there are all planes for FSX and can I create a new .vmr file for that ?

 

Thanks for help guys ! And sorry for disturbing !

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I can't remember for sure, but I want to say that although it's been talked about a few times, I don't remember anyone actually doing one. Of course one option to creating one is to use VMRgenerator after you install the AI.

Don Desfosse
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