Chad Vienna 1195499 Posted May 27, 2015 at 08:01 PM Posted May 27, 2015 at 08:01 PM (edited) Scenario: I've just landed IFR at KXXX, a towered U.S. airport (with active VATSIM ATC) and plan to taxi to the departure runway for a IFR departure to KZZZ. Question: As I don't yet have a IFR clearance to KZZZ; Rather than taxi to a ramp area; can I request to taxi to a hold or run-up area while I request and await my clearance? Edited May 27, 2015 at 08:51 PM by Guest _________________ Chad Vienna - KCRQ ZLA Pilot Cert I-09 "The important thing in aeroplanes is that they shall be speedy." — Baron Manfred Von Richthofen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Glottmann Posted May 27, 2015 at 08:32 PM Posted May 27, 2015 at 08:32 PM From what I've seen other controllers do...and what I personally would do is tell you to expect clearance holding short of the runway...traffic permitting of course so there is no delay for multiple aircraft behind you. I'm actually curious how they do this in the real world. Might be route dependent (Intra-TRACON vs. Inter-ARTCC). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted May 27, 2015 at 08:55 PM Posted May 27, 2015 at 08:55 PM no requirement that i know of that you have to be at the ramp to receive an IFR clearance. work it out with the controllers, theyll tell you whether theyll be able to fit that request or if they prefer you go to the ramp to get it to keep you out of the way of other traffic. if theirs a holding box, even better. happens sometimes. ive heard people do it at my home field, they start taxiing out and then for whatever reason whether it be deteriorating weather or whatever theyll key up ground and let them know they want to pick up an IFR. if you are small enough, like a cessna, we can fit about a dozen 172's on the side of the taxiway by the runway at our field, we often do for run-ups lol place gets jam packed during peak hours. the big citations can squeeze right in between us to get out. seen the same for the folks doing their cross countries. rather then taxi to the ramp, they want to get back out quickly and avoid any fees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Vienna 1195499 Posted May 27, 2015 at 09:39 PM Author Posted May 27, 2015 at 09:39 PM Thanks for the response guys. I didn't think that it would/should be a problem unless it would interfere with the movement of other aircraft. I have seen rw aircraft waiting in the run up area at KCRQ (when the TWR is in operation) awaiting IFR release, which I believe would mean that they are either awaiting clearance; or have a clearance and are waiting for DEP and/or CTR to find a hole in the flow to fit them into. _________________ Chad Vienna - KCRQ ZLA Pilot Cert I-09 "The important thing in aeroplanes is that they shall be speedy." — Baron Manfred Von Richthofen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted May 28, 2015 at 03:42 AM Board of Governors Posted May 28, 2015 at 03:42 AM Correct. And done in RW too. I've done it RW dozens of times. Hearing, "Clearance on Request", I've requested taxi clearance and gotten it. Most times, the ground controller will offer the clearance when I arrive at the runup area; occasionally they offer it while taxiing. If single pilot, I just advise that I'll pick it up in the runup area. Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Vienna 1195499 Posted May 28, 2015 at 04:08 AM Author Posted May 28, 2015 at 04:08 AM Correct. And done in RW too. I've done it RW dozens of times. Hearing, "Clearance on Request", I've requested taxi clearance and gotten it. Most times, the ground controller will offer the clearance when I arrive at the runup area; occasionally they offer it while taxiing. If single pilot, I just advise that I'll pick it up in the runup area. Well Don, that's another great thing about Janet; She's usually going through the taxi and take-off checklist, configuring trim, flaps, and last minute avionics while we're taxiing; leaving me free to utilize the PPT on my yoke, keep a hand on the power levers, and not even having to put my drink down. _________________ Chad Vienna - KCRQ ZLA Pilot Cert I-09 "The important thing in aeroplanes is that they shall be speedy." — Baron Manfred Von Richthofen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted May 28, 2015 at 04:12 AM Board of Governors Posted May 28, 2015 at 04:12 AM They say jealousy isn't good for the soul... And "they" are probably right... But boy, oh boy, is that awesome! Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Williams Posted May 28, 2015 at 05:46 PM Posted May 28, 2015 at 05:46 PM Well Don, that's another great thing about Janet; She's usually going through the taxi and take-off checklist, configuring trim, flaps, and last minute avionics while we're taxiing; leaving me free to utilize the PPT on my yoke, keep a hand on the power levers, and not even having to put my drink down. Lucky Man You Are! Thank you, Lance W. Hundreds of Real-World Airlines and Routes for you to fly at www.ndbair.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz Silveira 1080618 Posted May 29, 2015 at 01:27 PM Posted May 29, 2015 at 01:27 PM Or you could get a clearance while airborne, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts