David Klain 874106 Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:18 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:18 AM (edited) As those of you who read these forums know, the TGIF event to Chicago for next Friday (April 7th) has been cancelled. This is a disappointment to all as this event generates a lot of traffic and is enjoyed by many pilots who do not belong to the sponsoring VAs. Purely by happenstance (our schedule for 2006 was developed last November) the United Virtual Airlines/Virtual Air Canada Saturday Scramble for Saturday April 8th also happens to be going to Chicago this week. This event is open to all pilots no matter what VA they belong to or even if they don't belong to one at all! UVA and VAC just sponsor it to try and guarantee the center we are visiting enough traffic to get the controllers out and manned. The event is scheduled for arrival in the Chicago area (primarily KORD and KMDW) from 2300-0200Z on the night of Saturday, April 8th. Event details can be found here. Below are some images from today's Scramble into Raleigh. Note the aircraft in a hold North of the airport...several aircraft held for over 20 minutes! Come and join the Saturday Scramble for fun in Chicago! Dave Edited April 2, 2006 at 03:10 AM by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Hernandez 923212 Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:45 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:45 AM I dont know exactly what happened, I did read the posts. I think it is a shame that Mr. Williams is going to let his VA suffer for a what sounds like a personal grudge against Mr. Turner. Did we forget what we gather here for? Manuel Hernandez DVA2569 [Mod - Happy Thoughts]t Director of Human Resources Delta Virtual Airlines www.deltava.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Fredrich 827138 Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:49 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:49 AM Might want to edit that post right away to nip this in the butt real quick before we get another fire bomb rant thread... David thats great that you are inviting all VA's to attend that event, I'll be sure to p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] it along to my pilots at Midwest! Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Hernandez 923212 Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:55 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:55 AM I understand that this may be matches to a gas can, but that is the way I feel. I am not trying be rude, I just think that whatever the issue is they should have handled via email. I am sure that they are both stand-up guys, if they just talked it through everything would be a ok. On the flipside, it is sad to see TGIF get cancelled.. Manuel Hernandez DVA2569 [Mod - Happy Thoughts]t Director of Human Resources Delta Virtual Airlines www.deltava.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Bartolotta 912967 Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:58 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:58 AM Wave to Indy Tower as you p[Mod - Happy Thoughts] by! Looks cool Dave, I will do my best to make it next weekend to Midway! Nick Bartolotta - ZSE Instructor, pilot at large "Just fly it on down to within a inch of the runway and let it drop in from there." - Capt. Don Lanham, ATA Airlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Kolin Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:58 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 02:58 AM Might want to edit that post right away to nip this in the butt real quick Yes, otherwise it might come back to bite us in the .... I think you meant bud Cheers! Luke ... I spawn hundreds of children a day. They are daemons because they are easier to kill. The first four remain stubbornly alive despite my (and their) best efforts. ... Normal in my household makes you a member of a visible minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiel McGowan 813486 Posted April 2, 2006 at 03:02 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 03:02 AM I agree, I havent seen anything to suggest either Jeff or Lance are not stand up guys, seems like Lance got fired up for one reason or another, and may have taken it way over the edge and it seems Jeff too drastic measures to stop this. Matches to the fire or not, we will never see both sides of the story, and its hard to believe one or the other, so I hope VCA will continue TGIF for the sake of VATUSA and not hold it back due to someone [mod] you off one night. Things happen, move on and well...forget about it. Politics aside everyone is here to have a good time and fly/control, why take that away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Klain 874106 Posted April 2, 2006 at 03:05 AM Author Posted April 2, 2006 at 03:05 AM Not wanting to censor anyone's comments, but I request this post remain focused on the Saturday Scramble event lest it be locked down. I have no knowledge of what led to TGIF shutting down and prefer not to speculate in these forums. Anyone who wants to is respectfully requested to do so in another post and let us focus on supporting/providing information to anyone who wants to "Scramble to Chicago". And yes Nick...we would love it it ATA Virtual wanted to fly in to MDW at the same time our TED flights go in there while United and Virtual Air Canada flights roll into O'Hare...that is a recipe for a fun time for pilots and controllers alike! Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Bartolotta 912967 Posted April 2, 2006 at 03:41 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 03:41 AM And yes Nick...we would love it it ATA Virtual wanted to fly in to MDW at the same time our TED flights go in there while United and Virtual Air Canada flights roll into O'Hare...that is a recipe for a fun time for pilots and controllers alike! Dave We're a megar bunch, but we'll do our best! Nick Bartolotta - ZSE Instructor, pilot at large "Just fly it on down to within a inch of the runway and let it drop in from there." - Capt. Don Lanham, ATA Airlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Speranza 908835 Posted April 2, 2006 at 04:49 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 04:49 AM I've got an idea... Let's start a new event; That is like TGIF; But is TGIS! (On Saturday, vs. Friday)... We could have UVA, VAC, ATAv, and a few other VA's join in as well! It could be a new movement! Out with the old, in with the new! I'll be there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Heaney 879309 Posted April 2, 2006 at 05:15 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 05:15 AM Not wanting to censor anyone's comments, but I request this post remain focused on the Saturday Scramble event lest it be locked down. I have no knowledge of what led to TGIF shutting down and prefer not to speculate in these forums. Anyone who wants to is respectfully requested to do so in another post and let us focus on supporting/providing information to anyone who wants to "Scramble to Chicago". David, I can appreciate what you are trying to do, but isn't that a bit hypocritical? You started this thread, talking about TGIF Getting cancelled, yet you ask people not to talk about it, when they do? Perhaps if you'd started the thread JUST about the Scramble, then you'd be correct in asking people to keep on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Tunall 900330 Posted April 2, 2006 at 06:22 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 06:22 AM I think Mr. Klain was simply advertising an event, and providing for an alternate, since a normally occuring event is cancelled this week. Nothing hypocritical about it. Cheers, Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Heaney 879309 Posted April 2, 2006 at 06:50 AM Posted April 2, 2006 at 06:50 AM I guess we see it different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Latham 904666 Posted April 4, 2006 at 02:27 PM Posted April 4, 2006 at 02:27 PM AvA, while not a part of "TGIF", is still planning on visiting the fine folks in the ORD ARTCC this Friday. While I can't say in any "official" capacity, I feel it's safe to say that all of AvA definitly appreciates all of the hard work that the ARTCC's do in preparation for our arrival, in the Events that we participate in. See ya Friday nite! Capt. Pilotus Amazingus -Superhero to the aviation m[Mod - Happy Thoughts]es. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Brummett Posted April 4, 2006 at 03:22 PM Posted April 4, 2006 at 03:22 PM Not wanting to censor anyone's comments, but I request this post remain focused on the Saturday Scramble event lest it be locked down. I have no knowledge of what led to TGIF shutting down and prefer not to speculate in these forums. Anyone who wants to is respectfully requested to do so in another post and let us focus on supporting/providing information to anyone who wants to "Scramble to Chicago". David, I can appreciate what you are trying to do, but isn't that a bit hypocritical? You started this thread, talking about TGIF Getting cancelled, yet you ask people not to talk about it, when they do? Perhaps if you'd started the thread JUST about the Scramble, then you'd be correct in asking people to keep on topic. You're being a little hypersensitive, don't you think? Especially considering, from what I've seen, that you've sided with Mr. Williams without really knowing what's gone on with it. On another note, nice meeting you last week, Dave. Excellent presentation. Mark Brummett Website owner, http://www.zkcartcc.org ZKC Events Co-ordinator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Heaney 879309 Posted April 4, 2006 at 03:48 PM Posted April 4, 2006 at 03:48 PM How is anything I've said, Siding with anyone? What makes you think I don't know what's going on? Hmmm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Meyer 944876 Posted April 4, 2006 at 08:34 PM Posted April 4, 2006 at 08:34 PM What makes you think I don't know what's going on? Because you don't act like it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Brummett Posted April 4, 2006 at 09:25 PM Posted April 4, 2006 at 09:25 PM How is anything I've said, Siding with anyone? What makes you think I don't know what's going on? Hmmm.. I saw enough of the replies in the VCair forums before access was restricted to registered members only. That was all I needed to see. Mark Brummett Website owner, http://www.zkcartcc.org ZKC Events Co-ordinator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted April 4, 2006 at 09:29 PM Posted April 4, 2006 at 09:29 PM Not wanting to censor anyone's comments, but I request this post remain focused on the Saturday Scramble event lest it be locked down. Dave Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey Lopez 883899 Posted April 5, 2006 at 01:35 AM Posted April 5, 2006 at 01:35 AM TGIF has not been cancelled ijm not gonna say what lance can go do but you get the point it is still alive and its going to keep on happening i myself will organize it if no one else does VCAIR is not TGIF the artcc's are TGIF and the pilots are TGIF not one man certainly not lance and certainly not VCAIR... The thoughts and/or words or any general things that are expressed above are not a direct reflection of the views of the actual poster myself, Rey Lopez, and should be disregarded and left unread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Miller 873677 Posted April 5, 2006 at 01:52 AM Posted April 5, 2006 at 01:52 AM ZAU has 12 controllers who reserved postions for Friday's Free For All. We expect to have m[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ive amounts of traffic during this time period. Even though it's not called TGIF it's expected to have just as much traffic. Andrew Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Zwebner 906832 Posted April 5, 2006 at 01:53 AM Posted April 5, 2006 at 01:53 AM Pan Am VA (even tho we arent as large as AvA or Delta (YET) will fully support the "Free For All" [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Heaney 879309 Posted April 5, 2006 at 03:35 AM Posted April 5, 2006 at 03:35 AM You guys crack me up. Guess I'll chock it up to you giving me a hard time for having vcair in my Sig, which has been there for months, long before this stuff happened. I guess that mean's I'm Anti Turner, and Pro Williams, 100% Eh? Grow up. And Mark, I don't recall posting anything in the vcair forums for, or against TGIF, since this happened. So go make your fake name, and go reapply there, so you can spy, and prove me wrong. Personally, if it matters. I'd like to See TGIF Continue. But I know it's future is foggy, at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Fredrich 827138 Posted April 6, 2006 at 03:54 PM Posted April 6, 2006 at 03:54 PM This topic has been "Grover Stopped". This picture brings out the friendliness in all of us. Grover reminds us to share, be kind to others, and not hurt eachothers feelings. Grover also reminds us not to use combative words and to work on our inflection so people dont read into our forum posts. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Green 810012 Posted April 6, 2006 at 06:01 PM Posted April 6, 2006 at 06:01 PM GroverAIR.... I like the sound of that. Richard Green VATSIM Supervisor SB Testing & Support Team VRC Testing & Support Team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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