Ross Carlson Posted June 9, 2015 at 06:41 PM Posted June 9, 2015 at 06:41 PM Is this going to overwrite previously installed WoAI packages or already notice that they are installed and not give you the option to install them? This application does not install anything. It just downloads the packages. You still need to use the World of AI installer to do the actual installation. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashon Connor 1123919 Posted June 9, 2015 at 10:44 PM Posted June 9, 2015 at 10:44 PM Does this work for P3D ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Galbraith 810451 Posted June 10, 2015 at 05:56 AM Posted June 10, 2015 at 05:56 AM Wow, this is something I've been looking for, seems like forever! Thanks. Any chance you could push out your personal settings to a config file? Be nice to remember your avsim login and sim preference.... Merely a suggestion, it's pretty good as it is! SeanG Sean Galbraith vCAF, RAAFvirtual www.RAAFvirtual.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted June 10, 2015 at 01:02 PM Author Posted June 10, 2015 at 01:02 PM Any chance you could push out your personal settings to a config file? I didn't bother with that because I figured this isn't a tool you'll be using often. Most people will grab the packages they want and perhaps never run the program again. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Galbraith 810451 Posted June 10, 2015 at 09:18 PM Posted June 10, 2015 at 09:18 PM Thanks for the reply, I figured that'd be the reason. I'm one of the "other" users, where I'm playing around with AI all the time. Doesn't bother me having to add the details in each time, just so happy to have it! SeanG Sean Galbraith vCAF, RAAFvirtual www.RAAFvirtual.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted June 11, 2015 at 01:04 AM Author Posted June 11, 2015 at 01:04 AM I just put up a new version (same download URL) that will save your AVSim credentials, simulator choice, and download folder into an XML file in your AppData folder. Your AVSim p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]word will be saved in the file in plain text, so there is a checkbox that you must check in order for the p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]word to be included in the file, in case you don't want your p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]word saved in the config file. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1275389 Posted June 11, 2015 at 03:36 AM Posted June 11, 2015 at 03:36 AM I just put up a new version (same download URL) that will save your AVSim credentials, simulator choice, and download folder into an XML file in your AppData folder. Your AVSim p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]word will be saved in the file in plain text, so there is a checkbox that you must check in order for the p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]word to be included in the file, in case you don't want your p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]word saved in the config file. I thought plain text was the safest way to secure p[Mod - Happy Thoughts]words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaquin Blanco Posted June 12, 2015 at 01:23 PM Posted June 12, 2015 at 01:23 PM Thank you Ross a very welcome app that greatly simplifies the download process. Best regards Joaquin Blanco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amit Tal 1323853 Posted June 15, 2015 at 12:51 AM Posted June 15, 2015 at 12:51 AM (edited) Ross, I deeply apreciate the work you do for the community pro bono. The issue is VPilot is, for me, unusable at the moment. Somehow I can twick and learn every software or plane but I can't come to grasp with the way AIs are generated and operated in your software. After the IVAO exclusion I followed your instructions of how to add the WOAI planes from download to install to adding the rules...and...my ear is still ringing from all the fail messages I got from trying to fly from KLAS. Your software is so user friendly but it seems that the issue of mismatching AIs and the messages keeps showing all over the net and in bundles. It can't be that so many are fumbling at the exact same spot. I know that I have spent far too much time on the issue. In short...is there a way to get a step by step guide of how to handle it from step 1 till the completion? Edited June 15, 2015 at 02:54 AM by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Grafelman Posted June 15, 2015 at 02:04 AM Posted June 15, 2015 at 02:04 AM is there a way to get a step by step guide of how to handle it from step 1 till the completion? Find AI packages you would like to use for your simulator. Download said packages. Install said packages into your simulator (instructions for this will vary from one AI package to another and should be provided by their maintainers/distributors; as such, these are outside the scope of vPilot docomeentation/instructions). Download (or generate, e.g. using VMRGenerator or by creating the .vmr files by hand as per the vPilot docomeentation) the appropriate rule sets for the models you have installed (and only the ones you have installed). OPTIONAL (but likely recommended): Run the vPilot model matching test and check for errors (either missing models or ones that simply don't work correctly and crash the simulator - I believe the IVAO MTL at one point contained models that did the latter). The package downloader Ross has provided takes care of steps 1-2 above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amit Tal 1323853 Posted June 15, 2015 at 02:32 AM Posted June 15, 2015 at 02:32 AM Hi Bradley and thanks for the elaborate answer ! I think the culprit is the 4th section...eg...which VMR file to generate/ download with so many options in WOAI. In my opinion, most don't want to mess around with the AIs and just want them installed and working. I think it might be better for the software to check which AIs are installed and implement them within the 3D world without any need for the user to do anything but to install the AIs. I don't wish to say anything which is blasphemy...but...IVAO's IVAP just asks you which AIs you want to install and does all the rest. Since all AIs are installed in the same location I think the same approach can be used here. Just my 2 cents. I shall try to regenerate the rules again and see how it goes. Thanks again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Christie Posted June 15, 2015 at 02:59 AM Posted June 15, 2015 at 02:59 AM If you use the vmr generator it will do that for you. Here is an example. Ross writes a rule set to include AWE (us airways) you don't download any AWE livery's because that airline is no longer, because vatsim is a place where anything goes a pilot logs in as AWE A320, vpilot throws an error because it has a rule for that aircraft but you don't have the model installed. Solution, you still don't download AWE livery's, you run the vmr generator which does not create a rule for AWE, pilot logs in, in an AWE A320, vpilot says hey no rule for that airline, matches an A320 to the first alphabetical airline AAL, no red error, problems solved. Or you can tell vmr generator to make a rule AWE=AAL Kirk Christie - VATPAC C3 VATPAC Undercover ATC Agent Worldflight Perth 737-800 Crew Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted June 15, 2015 at 03:04 AM Author Posted June 15, 2015 at 03:04 AM matches an A320 to the first alphabetical airline AAL Slight correction ... vPilot never does any matching based on alphabetical order. In your example, if no rule is found for an A320 with callsign prefix "AWE", then it'll look for a rule with A320 with no callsign prefix, and use that. If none is found, it will use the default model. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Christie Posted June 15, 2015 at 04:31 AM Posted June 15, 2015 at 04:31 AM Oh ok I stand corrected, I wonder where I read that, it certainly seemed like it was the case in my sim if an airline was missing it would display what ever airline started with A. Kirk Christie - VATPAC C3 VATPAC Undercover ATC Agent Worldflight Perth 737-800 Crew Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amit Tal 1323853 Posted June 15, 2015 at 01:27 PM Posted June 15, 2015 at 01:27 PM Thanks Kirk ! In the end I did it the long hard way...compared through the WOAI installer which package is installed and ticked its rule in VPilot. Then I checked if the rules matched and got about 20 packages mismatching in certain degrees. So...I completely removed those packages (sadly most are different US airlines) and finally got 611 packeges without a single mismatch. Checked them online and the AIs were loaded (though quite a few were white). My experience as a new VATSIM and VPilot user: I completely agree with Ross's move regarding using IVAO's own MTL without their consent. I also think that VPilot is very easy to Install and use while functioning at the highest level. At the same time I fail to understand why AIs management is so complicated. I sure don't think that it's Ross's responsibility to take care of the AI bundles within FSX and it's up to each simmer to download whichever one wishes. I do think and hope that there could be a much easier behind the scenes way of bringing those preinstalled AIs, through VPilot, to VATSIM's 3D online world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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