Preston Jackson 1306384 Posted July 1, 2016 at 04:19 PM Posted July 1, 2016 at 04:19 PM (edited) I couldn't delete this, so I just deleted the text Edited July 2, 2016 at 10:46 PM by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1275389 Posted July 1, 2016 at 04:39 PM Posted July 1, 2016 at 04:39 PM Preston, this is not the place to make your request. Open a ticket on VATUSA's site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted July 1, 2016 at 04:49 PM Posted July 1, 2016 at 04:49 PM have you actually tried getting in contact with the ARTCC directly via email, or their forum? or basing your decision solely on traffic and ATC levels? both of which you should check prior to selecting any area to control. ask questions first, less of a headache later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christos Kokkinomagoulos 1 Posted July 1, 2016 at 07:14 PM Posted July 1, 2016 at 07:14 PM Preston, I have replied to the e-mail you sent earlier today. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Hubbert 1054583 Posted July 1, 2016 at 07:55 PM Posted July 1, 2016 at 07:55 PM Preston since ZLC-Salt Lake is part of the Western Region of VATUSA, I have looked into things. I have sent you an email. Mark Hubbert Division Director VATUSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted July 1, 2016 at 08:29 PM Board of Governors Posted July 1, 2016 at 08:29 PM Just because I hate to see my facilities potentially dragged into the mud, I'll add a little facts and data.... Mr. Jackson came to his conclusion and posted his thoughts less than 21 hours after joining the facility. The facility staff and USA Western Regional ATD have both reached out to him to identify the best path forward within hours of his email and forum post, where he posted his discontent here, for thousands and thousands of members worldwide to see.... There are always (at least) two sides to every story.... My thoughts for all, not just Mr. Jackson: This is a volunteer organization built around a hobby. We all have some combination of jobs, school, families, churches, other volunteer obligations, etc. that pull on our time. While everyone strives to be as responsive and awesome as we can be, sometimes some of our other obligations take precedence. There is a need to find that sweet-spot balance between patient and responsive -- lack of either attribute is a poison pill of failure, and finding the right mixture of being both patient and responsive is so important. Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Jackson 1306384 Posted July 1, 2016 at 10:46 PM Author Posted July 1, 2016 at 10:46 PM First, I think everyone here deserves an apology, but not just everyone in general, specifically to Mr. Desfosse. I apologize for all of the headache and confusion this has caused, I would just like to explain that I posted this as a result of my impatience. I look back on it now, and, when I posted this I don't think I really appreciated the amount of members not only on VATSIM but also on the VATUSA and VATNA networks. So, with that, I formally apologize, and I will try to be a little more patient. We all have big flaws, and that just happens to be one of mine. I will be taking down this post in about 15 minutes just so that people can get a change to see my apology, I will also e-mail the staff whom have been so kind to me despite all of the trouble I stirred up here. Sincerely, Preston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley Grafelman Posted July 1, 2016 at 11:46 PM Posted July 1, 2016 at 11:46 PM If it's any consolation, I came to a similar conclusion after sticking it out for a couple hundred hours. Best of luck to you in your training/controlling no matter where it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Jackson 1306384 Posted July 1, 2016 at 11:59 PM Author Posted July 1, 2016 at 11:59 PM Thanks.. I just got lit up by the staff, and I feel bad, so that's why I apologized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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