Cancel Flight plan

[Derek Schumann 1203303]

Is there a proper way to cancel a flight plan? Newbie

 

I filed a plan from KLAX to KSFO (VTU6 RZS SERFR) was almost ready to taxi then changed my mind (wanting to follow some other traffic). So I refiled a new plan to KLAS (LOOP8 DAG KEPEC3). However when I called for Clearance I was surprised at my departure clearance. It caught me completely off guard. I got the VTU6 instead of the Loop8, which is OK but seemed a bit odd. I complied and completed the flight.

 

After the flight I reviewed the VATSIM stats. My flight plan still showed my destination as KSFO, and probably why I got the VTU6.

 

So.... I [Mod - Happy Thoughts]ume I didn't cancel my original flight plan properly and confused the Clearance Delivery controller. What do I do next time to do it correctly.

[1275389]

There is no way to "cancel" a plan. Usually, refiling will override the old plan. What I found works better is disconnecting, reconnecting then refiling. To check that it updated, I click "Fetch from Server."

[Derek Schumann 1203303]

Good to know. Thank you for your help.

[Robert Shearman Jr]

Also, I usually have VATSpy or something similar running in another window, and generally hover over myself on it to make sure my flightplan is showing up before calling in for clearance.

[Sean Harrison]

Could be wrong, but if you pre-file, you can't change it for 2hrs, unless of course you alter your callsign?

[Trent Hopkinson]

Could be wrong, but if you pre-file, you can't change it for 2hrs, unless of course you alter your callsign?

 

You would be wrong.

But to pre-file you HAVE to be disconnected from the network (ie on vpilot etc).

 

If you pre-file, and connect, then you can't re-prefile without following the process of

 

1: You are connected and pre-filed.

2: you disconnect from the network.

3: you pre-file a second time

3a: sometimes the prefile access times out, you will need to press the "file flightplan" button a second time after the error comes up.

4: wait for a good 30 seconds or more

5: connect to the network

 

Your new flightplan (which reached the network during step 3a (not 3)) is now filed.

[Sean Harrison]

Could be wrong, but if you pre-file, you can't change it for 2hrs, unless of course you alter your callsign?

 

You would be wrong.

But to pre-file you HAVE to be disconnected from the network (ie on vpilot etc).

 

If you pre-file, and connect, then you can't re-prefile without following the process of

 

1: You are connected and pre-filed.

2: you disconnect from the network.

3: you pre-file a second time

3a: sometimes the prefile access times out, you will need to press the "file flightplan" button a second time after the error comes up.

4: wait for a good 30 seconds or more

5: connect to the network

 

Your new flightplan (which reached the network during step 3a (not 3)) is now filed.

 

I wasn't aware that was the way to over-ride it. My comment was (I should have been more specific above) specifically;

 

Pre-file using the VATSIM pre-file web page,

Connect to the network with a pilot client,

Try and change the FP using the pilot client........ Won't work for 2hrs in my experience.

 

My belief is that the VATSIM pre-file page submission has the same supremisee as if a controller made the change. A pilot client can't then alter either of these in my experience. Tried it numerous times, and the only way is to disconnect and the reconnect with a different callsign say QFA345A.

 

I had not tried using the pre-file page to make the changes.

 

This is the main reason I do not use the pre-file system. Using the pilot client I can make changes every minute if I wanted.

 

In my experience same happens if I connect at a controlled facility, the Ctr makes a change to my FP, Ctr logs off, my FP is then uneditable for two hours. (Unless I use the Pre-file web page as you mention)

[Daniel Katz]

I think I read somewhere that if you disconnect, the FP and all amendments are purged in six minutes. Not sure if this is still the case.

 

https://forums.vatsim.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=66526&p=476190&hilit=retained#p476191

[1275389]

There is no way to "cancel" a plan. Usually, refiling will override the old plan. What I found works better is disconnecting, reconnecting then refiling. To check that it updated, I click "Fetch from Server."

Sean, try this, it *may* work (it usually does).