Veselin Velichkov 1380503 Posted February 9, 2017 at 07:11 PM Posted February 9, 2017 at 07:11 PM Hello. I want to change my division from Europe to the UK. I decided to do it from the dashboard but I got this msg: "Sorry, but we were unable to complete your request. You have already been [Mod - Happy Thoughts]igned to the Europe (except UK) division. Please contact the division director for further information on changing your division." The problem is that I don't know who to contact in order to change my division. If you can give me a contact guys I will really appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Blackburn Posted February 9, 2017 at 09:49 PM Posted February 9, 2017 at 09:49 PM I have moved you to UK Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Parkin Posted February 15, 2017 at 09:45 AM Posted February 15, 2017 at 09:45 AM Hi Norman, Can you explain why this is even happening? The UK division is drowning under their training demand (which they are trying very hard to clear) yet people are still allowed to transfer in. Thanks, Dan. VATSIM-UK C3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Blackburn Posted February 15, 2017 at 09:50 AM Posted February 15, 2017 at 09:50 AM The member has no ATC rating. Therefore no issue. Note that if the member were from anywhere except Europe the transfer would have been automated. Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Parkin Posted February 15, 2017 at 10:24 AM Posted February 15, 2017 at 10:24 AM Thanks for your reply. So the system just relies on them to get bored of waiting rather than actively managing numbers? VATSIM-UK C3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Blackburn Posted February 15, 2017 at 01:21 PM Posted February 15, 2017 at 01:21 PM Thanks for your reply. So the system just relies on them to get bored of waiting rather than actively managing numbers? I have no idea what you are trying to say here Daniel. Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernesto Alvarez 818262 Posted February 15, 2017 at 02:51 PM Posted February 15, 2017 at 02:51 PM i think hes under the [Mod - Happy Thoughts]umption that because someone can join the region, he can somehow jump the line or something for ATC training or now has to be added to the training list. two different things Daniel. or is it now local policy to block people from joining a region? which again is separate from becoming a controller. if the user intends to become a controller at some point, this is only the first step which places no demand on anyone to start that process. Some of the pilot training groups ive heard also require joining a region or simply wants his stats to show that (as with most pilots) this is something people can do when they join, some only figure that out later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Tyndall 1087023 Posted February 16, 2017 at 03:37 AM Posted February 16, 2017 at 03:37 AM I took Daniel's meaning to be completely different and in a sense...sarcasm. I understood him to mean "why re[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ign someone to UK when the line to get trained is so long that new trainees get tired of waiting (bored) and move on". I believe he is suggesting it would make more sense to leave Veselin where he was or suggest a region less "behind schedule" so to speak, i.e., actively managing numbers to where they'll get the benefit of training instead of waiting in line. Of course, that's just my impression. I could be wrong. Usually am! Randy Randy Tyndall - KBOI ZLA I-11/vACC Portugal P4 “A ship is always safe in the harbor. But that’s not why they build ships” --Michael Bevington ID 814931, Former VATSIM Board of Governors Vice President of Pilot Training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted February 16, 2017 at 09:30 AM Board of Governors Posted February 16, 2017 at 09:30 AM Well, Randy, if you're wrong, we're wrong together, because that's exactly how I interpreted it. The member asked to be transferred. He may or may not be aware of the tremendous training queues there. Personally, I think the member should be advised that because of the current training queues, it could be several months, over a year, etc. until he gets any training, so he is welcome to wait in line if that's what he wants, else we're happy to help move him someplace else where the queues aren't that long. That's what I [Mod - Happy Thoughts]umed Daniel meant from the "actively managing" comment. Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Blackburn Posted February 16, 2017 at 10:33 AM Posted February 16, 2017 at 10:33 AM He is OBS rated. What, pray gentlemen, is the issue? If the member had a rating he would not have been moved; no matter where their target was. They could have requested anywhere outside of their original Region and been automatically moved, irrespective of any training queues. A lot of people are [Mod - Happy Thoughts]uming the member wants to become a controller yet nothing in his request suggests it. To that end let's call this one closed. Norman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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