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Henry Yandell 1397750
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Henry Yandell 1397750
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Is it allowed and if so how would I do it?

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Randy Tyndall 1087023
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I don't know, Henry. I looked and could not find anything specifically prohibiting it, even in the VSOA guidelines. However, there is a specific restriction against performing "Firefighting" operations unless a member of a VSOA. Crop Dusting and Firefighting are not that far apart in function and performance, so I would guess that, no, it is not allowed..

 

I would contact Roger Curtiss, Vice President Virtual Airlines and Special Operations VATGOV9, and ask him specifically if it is permitted, [email protected]

 

Good luck, I have the DC10 Fire Tanker, the Fire mods for the C-130 and the DC-3, and a SEAT, but all I do online is fly from one airport to the next as if I am "positioning" resources near a fire, which is allowed.

 

Randy

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Bradley Grafelman
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Then again, the VSOA guidelines say nothing about a normal VFR flight, complete with altitude changes (more specifically, changing to low altitudes over unpopulated fields)...

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Magnus Meese
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The way I see it, firefighting is a government operation and thus covered by the VSOA, while dusting is a private venture and only fall under the restrictions of VFR.

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Henry Yandell 1397750
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Thanks for your help everybody

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Randy Tyndall 1087023
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Henry,

 

Any chance you could post what the "solution" was since you changed the subject to [sOLVED]?

 

None of the responders thus far, myself included, have or hold positions (that I know of) within VATSIM to say "do it", so if you are basing your "solution" on our comments you could be making a costly mistake.

 

If, on the other hand, you contacted Roger Curtiss as I suggested and he has replied with a definitive answer, that reply would be nice to see.

 

Randy

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Henry Yandell 1397750
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Henry,

 

Any chance you could post what the "solution" was since you changed the subject to [sOLVED]?

 

None of the responders thus far, myself included, have or hold positions (that I know of) within VATSIM to say "do it", so if you are basing your "solution" on our comments you could be making a costly mistake.

 

If, on the other hand, you contacted Roger Curtiss as I suggested and he has replied with a definitive answer, that reply would be nice to see.

 

Randy

 

Sorry about that. also does anyone know how to get my name changed to Henry Yandell and not Henry YAndell it’s rather embarr[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ing

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Norman Blackburn
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Sorry about that. also does anyone know how to get my name changed to Henry Yandell and not Henry YAndell it’s rather embarr[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ing

The forum takes its information from your initial sign up. I have edited your registration to show Yandell. As soon as things sync up it will show corrected.

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Henry Yandell 1397750
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Sorry about that. also does anyone know how to get my name changed to Henry Yandell and not Henry YAndell it’s rather embarr[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ing

The forum takes its information from your initial sign up. I have edited your registration to show Yandell. As soon as things sync up it will show corrected.

 

Thanks a lot for your help.

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Henry, what is the solution?

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Henry Yandell 1397750
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There isn’t one

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Randy Tyndall 1087023
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Henry,

 

There is a solution because you changed the subject to [sOLVED]. Either you have found out you can fly crop dusting missions on VATSIM or you have found out you can't.

 

Not knowing if you can or can't is not a "solution".

 

Did you contact Roger Curtiss though the link I gave you?

 

There are several of us here who have tried to help, given you our opinions, which are not solutions, and wait to see the result. Nothing is more frustrating in these forums than seeing the original poster never come back or worse yet find an answer, but not post the result. Be a sport and let us know what, if anything, you found out. If you found out nothing, please say so, then we can all ignore your [sOLVED] subject line.

 

Randy

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Henry Yandell 1397750
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I changed the subject line

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Randy Tyndall 1087023
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I give up.

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Bradley Grafelman
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I give up.

A victory we waited far too long for. The much ado about nothing is finally over and we can go back to using common sense.

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Henry Yandell 1397750
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Henry,

1) Did you contact Roger Curtiss? Yes/No

2) If you responded "Yes" for #1, did he respond? Yes/No

3) If you responded "Yes" for #2, did he say crop dusting was allowed? Yes/No

 

We're just here to try and come to an actual conclusion rather than speculating on the result of your inquiries or lack-thereof.

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Camden Bruno
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I give up.
look, you were arrogant by not looking at the fact that I had in fact changed the subject heading about 2 days prior to you having a big rant at me, so theres not point getting angry. You only have yourself to blame.

 

Henry,

 

First of all, you may want to look up the definition of arrogant. Second, watch your mouth and tone. As Josh stated above, all Randy was trying to do is inquire what came of the situation of whether you received an official answer that wasn't simply another forum member expressing what they think the answer is. The subject line isn't the issue - it's that you haven't answered the question of whether or not you've gained any information on the subject. In the future, I suggest you do not edit the subject line to reflect "SOLVED."

 

Please kindly refrain from making posts like the one above, and instead answer the questions Josh posted. Or, if you don't want to be helpful, simply don't respond.

 

Respectfully,

Cam B.
VATSIM Supervisor

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Roger Hanson
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I guess Henry's given up because the crop dusting season is over

Regards, Rog Hanson

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