Barry Martin Edwards Posted April 22, 2018 at 05:51 PM Posted April 22, 2018 at 05:51 PM Hello all,can anyone help me how to produce the rivers and lakes in the Map Display on Vatspy,I have set the detail level to High in the general settings ,restarted Vatspy and nothing happens,what am I doing wrong? Thanks,benibaz. Vatsim P1,P2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted April 22, 2018 at 06:12 PM Posted April 22, 2018 at 06:12 PM I'm guessing it's a video driver problem with OpenGL. Can you post a screenshot? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Martin Edwards Posted April 23, 2018 at 08:33 AM Author Posted April 23, 2018 at 08:33 AM Hello Ross, this is the screenshot : Vatsim P1,P2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted April 23, 2018 at 04:01 PM Posted April 23, 2018 at 04:01 PM Yeah, best guess is that it's an opengl video driver issue where it's not rendering the polygons in the right order, causing the inland water polygons to be overwritten by the land polygons. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Martin Edwards Posted April 23, 2018 at 06:14 PM Author Posted April 23, 2018 at 06:14 PM Thank you Ross for your reply,so how do I go about resolving this issue?benibaz Vatsim P1,P2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Martin Edwards Posted April 23, 2018 at 06:25 PM Author Posted April 23, 2018 at 06:25 PM Thank you Ross for your reply,so how do I go about resolving this issue?I have two folders "OpenGl" on my computer but inside named "point cloud effects" and "simple cloud"that is all.benibaz Vatsim P1,P2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted April 23, 2018 at 07:56 PM Posted April 23, 2018 at 07:56 PM I don't know ... maybe try upgrading to the latest video driver. The openGL support is part of your graphics card video driver. Again, this is just a guess as to what's happening. In the past, I have definitely seen where some video drivers behave differently in terms of the order in which "stacked" items like this are rendered. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Martin Edwards Posted April 25, 2018 at 04:57 PM Author Posted April 25, 2018 at 04:57 PM Hello Ross,I have updated my Nvidia GTX 770 driver to the latest update(391.35),and still the problem persists,I have even contacted the Nvidia support on chat,and followed his instructions,but still there is no change in the program Vatspy.Any other ideas?thanks.benibaz. Vatsim P1,P2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted April 25, 2018 at 05:29 PM Posted April 25, 2018 at 05:29 PM No idea ... sorry ... Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Martin Edwards Posted April 26, 2018 at 08:45 AM Author Posted April 26, 2018 at 08:45 AM Hello Ross,with all due respect,how can you as the developer of Vatspy,have no idea about your own program and how to resolve issues that occur within it?I would have expected some support from you on how to resolve this issue.Thanks.benibaz. Vatsim P1,P2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Ogden Posted April 26, 2018 at 08:52 AM Posted April 26, 2018 at 08:52 AM Hello Ross,with all due respect,how can you as the developer of Vatspy,have no idea about your own program and how to resolve issues that occur within it?I would have expected some support from you on how to resolve this issue.Thanks.benibaz. Ross no longer develops VATSPY. I wouldn't expect him to remember the ins and outs. I think your issue is a limitation of the map that VATSPY uses. Because of the way the map is drawn, it is not going to show every single river and lake, after all, it isn't Google Maps. You will see that I see the exact same thing you see when I open VATSPY. If you aren't satisfied, then there are other alternate maps available, such as VATTASTIC, Accomeap and QuteScoop. Andrew Ogden Gander Oceanic OCA Chief Vancouver FIR Senior Instructor Visit us: https://ganderoceanic.ca Contact: [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Martin Edwards Posted April 26, 2018 at 09:07 AM Author Posted April 26, 2018 at 09:07 AM Hello Andrew,thank you for your information,as I have both Accomeap and Qutescope installed on my computer, I will use one of these but still occasionally monitor Vatspy for flights and controller details.benibaz. Vatsim P1,P2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted April 26, 2018 at 03:31 PM Posted April 26, 2018 at 03:31 PM I would have expected some support from you on how to resolve this issue.Thanks.benibaz. What we have here is the cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ic mismatch between the level of support a user expects for free software where no promise of support was made, and the level of support the developer is willing to provide. Since there is no promise of support for VAT-Spy, and since I did make a suggestion to try to fix your issue, you actually received more support than was ever promised. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted April 26, 2018 at 03:45 PM Posted April 26, 2018 at 03:45 PM Ross no longer develops VATSPY. That's not really accurate ... the fact that I haven't released any updates in a long time doesn't mean I won't. I'm actually planning to make an update that includes downloading of FIR boundary data from an official source, to keep the boundaries updated. That official source doesn't exist yet, but it is supposedly a work in progress. I think your issue is a limitation of the map that VATSPY uses. If he has the lakes and rivers detail level set to the highest level, he should see some inland water in the screenshot he posted. There is a lake just north of Glasgow, for instance. You will see that I see the exact same thing you see when I open VATSPY. Do you have the lakes and rivers details set to the max also? If so, you probably have the same OpenGL rendering issue. I have definitely seen in the past that some OpenGL driver implementations handle stacking of polygons differently. I've seen this with my ATC clients with the rendering of filled polygons in the video maps. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Martin Edwards Posted April 26, 2018 at 04:20 PM Author Posted April 26, 2018 at 04:20 PM I would have expected some support from you on how to resolve this issue.Thanks.benibaz. What we have here is the cl[Mod - Happy Thoughts]ic mismatch between the level of support a user expects for free software where no promise of support was made, and the level of support the developer is willing to provide. Since there is no promise of support for VAT-Spy, and since I did make a suggestion to try to fix your issue, you actually received more support than was ever promised. Hello Ross,I apologise for the fact that no support is promised for VAT-Spy,I take back what I have said.benibaz Vatsim P1,P2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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