Konstantin Kharlamov 10146 Posted October 15, 2019 at 12:07 AM Posted October 15, 2019 at 12:07 AM Hi, I really appreciate the fact that Unicom now has voice, easier to hear people nearby... but my issue is spam, maybe spam is a bad word but one person doing touch and gos literally repeated the same message 50 times over and over. That forced me to switch to an unused frequency. Any way to go around this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Jenkins Posted October 15, 2019 at 01:01 AM Posted October 15, 2019 at 01:01 AM You are technically supposed to announce your position at every turn in a traffic pattern. Also, keep in mind as soon as you leave the 15-mile radius you won't hear them anymore. However, abusing the frequency is another matter. If someone is abusing voice UNICOM (e.g. swearing, non-relevant chat, etc.) you should contact a SUP. Josh Jenkins CZVR I1 controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Simon Kelsey Posted October 15, 2019 at 06:20 AM Board of Governors Posted October 15, 2019 at 06:20 AM I think 'spam' is a pretty harsh term for someone who is using the frequency in exactly the right way! However it is perhaps a reminder that as pilots we should all be slightly mindful of the bigger picture and if we are doing circuits at a little airfield near a major international airport, for example, if there is no other traffic in our circuit and 15 aircraft on the ground at the airport next door it might be wise to be more selective about transmissions However, fundamentally this is just a fact of life... and exactly why we range limited 122.8! SAFETYCOM frequencies in real life suffer from the same issues of being able to be received at other airfields (more so as at typical heights ranges are much more than 15nm). It's good to hear people are using voice Unicom effectively though! Vice President, Pilot Training Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Duris Posted October 15, 2019 at 06:28 AM Posted October 15, 2019 at 06:28 AM (edited) Hello Konstantin, probably not experience with real flying, correct? No problem in my opinion, if this momentary disturb you, you can simply turn OFF your COM1 channel -> OFF on radio equipment to receive only text, this I see as solution for you. After leaving your area you can then set again channel to ON. Update2: in real life (as Simon already mentioned near some airports with trf) you can be in real danger if you turn off Voice channel because it disturb you, as pilot you need listen on freq to avoid collisions/danger. I see simply UNICOM in this time as perfect/real as can be. I recommend turn off channel but this isn't reality this time, sry... OM-ICO Edited October 15, 2019 at 12:47 PM by Guest OM-ICO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Teale Posted October 15, 2019 at 06:28 AM Posted October 15, 2019 at 06:28 AM You are technically supposed to announce your position at every turn in a traffic pattern. Also, keep in mind as soon as you leave the 15-mile radius you won't hear them anymore. However, abusing the frequency is another matter. If someone is abusing voice UNICOM (e.g. swearing, non-relevant chat, etc.) you should contact a SUP. This depends where in the world you are. In Aus, this does happen, but the AIP does also recommend AGAINST the practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Morris 1132365 Posted October 15, 2019 at 08:33 AM Posted October 15, 2019 at 08:33 AM but the AIP does also recommend AGAINST the practice. Which country's AIP is this? I think common sense comes into it here, calling every final is no bad thing but you wouldn't call on every leg. If kept concise I'd be happy to hear unicom used doing circuits nearby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted October 15, 2019 at 01:33 PM Posted October 15, 2019 at 01:33 PM If you do a couple of circuits and you are the only one directly at this airfield, even in real life it will be sufficient to just report "ABCD traffic, downwind runway xx" and "ABCD traffic, final runway xx touch and go" (in some places it's called "option"). This should be sufficient communication for someone else joining the field from the air or on the ground. Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Shearman Jr Posted October 15, 2019 at 04:34 PM Posted October 15, 2019 at 04:34 PM Also of note -- after a short while, the novelty of voice CTAF/UNICOM will wear off a bit, and the incidence of pilots doing patterns at non-staffed or non-towered airports will return to a more normal baseline. I'm guessing that baseline will be higher than before voice CTAF/UNICOM existed, but, it won't be as prevalent as it is right now. Cheers, -R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Duris Posted October 15, 2019 at 05:59 PM Posted October 15, 2019 at 05:59 PM Hello Robert, agree because maybe all use for this kind of training independed voice chanell system (Skype,...) and not logically respected text UNICOM in case of trafic at non-towered airport. Now it definitelly is like real, if some Info isn't on airport Online, pilot can make procedures with blind transmission due FIR regulations as real. Definitelly perfect in my opinion. Simply from my 11 years experience there was so small amount of Infos what I met with Online flying here... OM-ICO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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