Louie Lister Posted April 1, 2020 at 03:24 PM Posted April 1, 2020 at 03:24 PM Just a quick suggestion that sprung to mind... I occasionally get the FPS countdown warning. It's not a common issue as my frames go back up to 20+ almost seconds later but the countdown still continues. For example, I am currently flying now and my frames dropped to about 18 for a second or two, nothing major. They immediately went back up and it went up to about 25-26fps which is within the limit and the countdown should have stopped, however it continued to give me the 10 second warning and then I have to rush to another camera view that'll give me more frames to make sure it cancels. To my knowledge, my sim rate has never been an issue for controllers as none have ever pulled me up on it. My FPS doesn't drop below 20 for long enough for the sim rate to change. It's quite annoying when it continues to proceed to kick you offline when your frames are 20+fps. Is there some sort of time scale it has to be above 20 for it to terminate the countdown? My suggestion, anyway.. Seeing as the low FPS warning is for when controllers are online and how it affects them. Would it be a possibility to deactivate the xPilot FPS warnings when a pilot is tuned to 122.8? Kind regards, VATSIM UK Division Senior Student (S3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Shannon Posted April 1, 2020 at 05:06 PM Posted April 1, 2020 at 05:06 PM Just a quick suggestion that sprung to mind... I occasionally get the FPS countdown warning. It's not a common issue as my frames go back up to 20+ almost seconds later but the countdown still continues. For example, I am currently flying now and my frames dropped to about 18 for a second or two, nothing major. They immediately went back up and it went up to about 25-26fps which is within the limit and the countdown should have stopped, however it continued to give me the 10 second warning and then I have to rush to another camera view that'll give me more frames to make sure it cancels. To my knowledge, my sim rate has never been an issue for controllers as none have ever pulled me up on it. My FPS doesn't drop below 20 for long enough for the sim rate to change. It's quite annoying when it continues to proceed to kick you offline when your frames are 20+fps. Is there some sort of time scale it has to be above 20 for it to terminate the countdown? My suggestion, anyway.. Seeing as the low FPS warning is for when controllers are online and how it affects them. Would it be a possibility to deactivate the xPilot FPS warnings when a pilot is tuned to 122.8? Kind regards, The user will receive their first warning after 10 consecutive seconds of having a frame rate less than 20. The second warning will trigger after 20 consecutive seconds. After 30 consecutive seconds of bad frame rates, the user is disconnected. If at any point before the 30 second mark, if the user’s frame rate improves, then any pending disconnect is cancelled. Controller (C3), Los Angeles ARTCC Developer: xPilot, vATIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie Lister Posted April 5, 2020 at 11:14 AM Author Posted April 5, 2020 at 11:14 AM My suggestion, anyway.. Seeing as the low FPS warning is for when controllers are online and how it affects them. Would it be a possibility to deactivate the xPilot FPS warnings when a pilot is tuned to 122.8? Kind regards, VATSIM UK Division Senior Student (S3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Shearman Jr Posted April 5, 2020 at 04:41 PM Posted April 5, 2020 at 04:41 PM A low sim-rate pilot messes up sequencing when there isn't a controller online, too. Or IFR into a non-towered field. Or in VFR traffic patterns at non-towered fields. If your argument is that there are no other pilots around you, well, then just let it disconnect you. Cheers, -R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted April 5, 2020 at 05:30 PM Posted April 5, 2020 at 05:30 PM I've always thought that it's best to alert the user of the problem as early as possible. Disabling it when you're on 122.8 or when you're not near other pilots just delays the notification until you're near other users and causing problems. It's too late at that point. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Dammers Posted April 5, 2020 at 08:07 PM Posted April 5, 2020 at 08:07 PM Not an X-Plane user, so I don't know if this is feasible, but I would think that a two-stage system might be more pleasant for affected users. The first stage just kicks off a warning; the second stage, say 2-3 minutes later, then disconnects you. This gives the user a last change to lower their rendering settings, hopefully raising the frame rate and simulation speed back into the green, and it's not long enough to cause serious disruption on the network. Obviously this depends on whether 2 minutes is enough to change those settings in X-Plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Bartels Posted April 7, 2020 at 09:09 PM Posted April 7, 2020 at 09:09 PM The problem with these suggestions is that when you are below 20 FPS you are in a slowed sim rate. It kicks in immediately, the question is are you below it long enough for ATC or pilots to notice it. VATSIM set 30 seconds as the cutoff point for it to be noticeable to other pilots and controllers. Going up to 1-2 minutes is way too long because by that time, your aircraft poses a potential collision risk to the aircraft behind you in sequence due to time dilation. You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Forever and always "Just the events guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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