Memphis, Norway? I think not.

[Robert Ogden 985378]

I have been logged onto Memphis Ground (KMEM) for several hours now using VRC. I'm using the same POF and Sector file as always. However, for some reason, my Controller List includes ENBD_CTR and ENBD_C_CTR. Also, I receive any text sent by these positions on the ATC channel as though they were in a neighboring ARTCC (like I would expect from ATL_CTR or IND_CTR).

 

At first I thought that ENBD_CTR had some screwed up setting or something, but now that ENBD_C_CTR is also showing, I'm scratching my head and wondering if its not something wrong with a POF file or if perhaps I've just lost my mind.

 

Any ideas whats going on?

[Deacon Barry 952424]

Hi Robert,

 

The two reasons I can think of ([Mod - Happy Thoughts]uming you are observing MEM) that you are seeing ENBD_CTR (which is Bodo Control in Norway) in your Controller List and seeing his ATC Channel messages are:

 

1 - You don't have the "POF Only" box 'clicked in' (for want of a better word). When you click the "POF Only" tab near the top of your Controller List, I believe this tells VRC to only display information for stations which are in your POF (Position File).

 

2 - Either you have your range set really high, or Bodo has his range set really high

 

Even so, a MEM controller seeing messages from Norway is somewhat odd

 

My apologies if neither of these solutions are of any use to you, if that is the case I'm sure Ross or someone else more knowledgable than myself knows the answer.

 

Regards,

Deacon

Edited November 15, 2006 at 08:27 PM by Guest

[Matthew Horan 901577]

I have people from Brasil on mine from time to time (And I control in Canada).. not sure why it happens, but you're not alone.

[Paul O'Donnell 969350]

hi Robert, have you checked your POF file to see if it lists ENBD. open your POF file with notepad or word or something similar and you will see the text. You should be able to see if they are listed although it is rather unusual to have ATC which is situated at the otherend of the world from your position in the same POF. hehe

 

I hope you get it worked out.. Goodluck

[Robert Ogden 985378]

my POF Only box was not activated, but that has never made a difference before. The USA can be full of ATC and I will only ever see the adjacent controllers on my list. During the time today when ENBD was on my list, his own TWR did not show up, nor did the rest of Europe. It was unique to those two positions.

 

I wasn't Observing either. I was logged in as Ground with a 10nm vis range

[Paul O'Donnell 969350]

maybe the other controller had his visibility set in your area, using the .vis command.

Or he could have been obersving but forgot to change his callsign.

 

hehe who knows..

[Gunnar Seljeseth 883677]

That sounds ineed very strange...

 

I will talk to the norwegian group of ATC's and see if they noticed anything unusual while they were on. I guess it happend today (November 15) based on the date of the postings, and the information about ENBD_CTR and ENBD_C_CTR being online at the same time, so I have a an idea of who it was that staffed thoose positions...

 

I'll be back with more information when I've got an answer from the group...

[Stephen Naughton 924116]

As far as I know, that can happen somtimes due to a server split, I remember being on one night and seing ATC messages that were sent out anywhere in the world.

[Alexandre Geahel 932157]

Been seeing LFFF_CTR and sometimes South American aswell .. I control in Lebanon :S

[Karl Mathias Moberg]

Hello sir!

It was I who was logged on as ENBD_CTR yesterday, and I think I perhaps has the answer.

 

We got a new .pof file in VACCSCA just over a week ago, ther might be an error there, ok, since I was covering an area of over 5-600nm I had used .vis 3 places, ENVA, ENBD, and ENTC so I could see the whole northern norway, with an visibility range set at 250nm... And since you saw ENBD_C_CTR who allso was online, I guess there is an error in the .pof file.....

 

Regards,

Karl Mathias Moberg

[Gunnar Seljeseth 883677]

I've now checked the POF file, and can't find any reason as to why ENBD should show up in the controller list at KMEM. Setting the visibility to 4000nm is not something easily done in either VRC or ASRC, either, so...

 

I think I'll head for the theory of server problems of some kind. At least temporarely...

[Martin Georg 811874]

Hiya,

 

a POF does not have anything to do with radio ranges. The distance between Memphis and Norway is several thousands of miles, while a CTR radio range is 400nm. I pretty sure that a server malfunction only can be the cause of this.