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Hi.

I'm pretty sure posting solo validations here go against the purpose under the GRP.

BRODIE MURDOCH
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Would you class the fourms as the local facility site. I wouldn't hence why it goes against the purpose of GRP

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The GRP only states the solo validation needs to be published in a public domain which is accessible to everyone if I recall. Anyhow I don’t see any harm if the solo validation list is posted in the VATSIM forums it would actually be quite easy for staffs & supervisors to find the updated roster data.

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2 hours ago, Chriss Klosowski said:

Would you rather have a list that's available to all due to recent technical issues with the local division or have nothing viewable to you?

But even on a local website it would be visible to all - no difference to the forums at all. Probably it would be safer to display them here at forums in a thread that can ONLY be seen when being logged in to the forums. Otherwise, a compromise would be to list the VATSIM IDs instead of the controller names, should someone be worried to death about data protection.

At VATSIM Germany it looks like this: https://vatsim-germany.org/controllers/atd/solos

Obviously, the underlying problem here is that this part of VATSIM does not have a website to show those solo validations, yet. Give them some slack, we do not need to be over-correct, please!

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3 hours ago, Chriss Klosowski said:

Would you rather have a list that's available to all due to recent technical issues with the local division or have nothing viewable to you?

So what you saying is that as the Division Director for VATMENA its okay to amend the GRP to benefit your technical issues. ?

The forums isnt your facility site. A supervisor would think last to go to the forums wouldn't you say ?

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Just now, Brodie Murdoch said:

So what you saying is that as the Division Director for VATMENA its okay to amend the GRP to benefit your technical issues. ?

No, Brodie. He's asking whether your prefer having the list here or no list at all. Simple choice.

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30 minutes ago, Andreas Fuchs said:

No, Brodie. He's asking whether your prefer having the list here or no list at all. Simple choice.

misunderstood i retract the comment above.

The list maybe helpful but as a supervisor myself i wouldn't seek the forums as the official source of solo validations as  under 4.5 (a) 2 and 4.5 (b) 2 states 

Be clearly listed on the local facility's website, detailing the member's name, VATSIM ID and the position(s) that they are validated on, and

so isnt the expectation to be on the facility site such as a vacc / artcc or division and not  the forums  ?

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3 hours ago, Chriss Klosowski said:

Would you rather have a list that's available to all due to recent technical issues with the local division or have nothing viewable to you?

16 minutes ago, Andreas Fuchs said:

Correct, Brodie, but in the current absence of such a website, this is a good compromise. Live and let live. Solo candidates should be able to direct SUPs to this thread to get the info.

The vACC has a website: http://www.westafricavacc.org/. If they are having trouble accessing the backend that's something else, but Brodie is correct in that it should be displayed there and not here. 🙂 It's a good compromise until they can get it up on their website, but it is technically not valid, and it's important that others don't get the impression that it is.

 

 

3 hours ago, Sachin Gnath said:

The GRP only states the solo validation needs to be published in a public domain which is accessible to everyone if I recall. Anyhow I don’t see any harm if the solo validation list is posted in the VATSIM forums it would actually be quite easy for staffs & supervisors to find the updated roster data.

GRP §4.5(a)(1):

[A solo endorsement shall] be clearly listed on the local facility's website, detailing the member's name, VATSIM ID and the position(s) that they are validated on [...]

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@Kwabena Adaakwa If you are able, get your web director to make a page on your website, as that is technically the only place that solo endorsement are valid. 

However, until you can do that, in order to not cause any inconvenience for the students affected, you can post it here in the meantime if you update the post to include the members' CID's, and the date the solo endorsement is valid to.

If you're having any problems accessing your website or in any other way cannot make the solo endorsement page, let me know and I will see if I have a solution for you.

Take care!

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