Robert Broadbent Posted August 31, 2021 at 02:05 AM Posted August 31, 2021 at 02:05 AM (edited) Hi, I have a sim with 2 EFB tablets (Pilot and CP) that run on a network. I want to use both of these for VPilot Comms as there are often 2 of us in the sim. I have the VPilot host running on my main sim machine. I have been able to set up each tablet as remote but Vpilot does not seem to allow 2 remotes connected together. Is this normal or an I missing something? Best regards Rob Edited August 31, 2021 at 04:02 AM by Robert Broadbent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Broadbent Posted August 31, 2021 at 02:12 AM Author Posted August 31, 2021 at 02:12 AM Sorry, must have been finger trouble. All working now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 31, 2021 at 02:18 AM Posted August 31, 2021 at 02:18 AM Is it letting you run voice on both remotes? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Broadbent Posted August 31, 2021 at 04:02 AM Author Posted August 31, 2021 at 04:02 AM Hi Ross, Sorry this is not solved. My bad. When I connected the second remote in observer mode, it looked like it worked but in fact logged me out of the other remote but it did not indicate this. I tried filing a flight plan and it said it was loaded but ATC had no record of it. I still am not sure if I can connect 2 remotes. I don't need voice on both. I have tried VPilot remote (no voice) on one and voice on the other but that didn't work. Best regards Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted August 31, 2021 at 05:14 AM Posted August 31, 2021 at 05:14 AM 1 hour ago, Robert Broadbent said: it looked like it worked but in fact logged me out of the other remote What do you mean by "logged me out of the other remote" ? Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Broadbent Posted August 31, 2021 at 05:17 AM Author Posted August 31, 2021 at 05:17 AM Well it didn't show a message but even though it let me file a flight plan it was seen by the controller. He asked if I had logged in as an observer, which I had on the other machine. I needed to disconnect it and reconnect then refile the flight plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Broadbent Posted August 31, 2021 at 06:29 AM Author Posted August 31, 2021 at 06:29 AM Ok, sorry Ross I think I wasted your time. I think the problem is the observer, in my case the person in the cockpit with me, must have his own Vatsim id. Can I create a second id for this purpose? Best regards Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torben Andersen Posted August 31, 2021 at 06:50 AM Posted August 31, 2021 at 06:50 AM No, you can't have two ids on VATSIM Torben Andersen, VACC-SCA Controller (C1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Broadbent Posted September 2, 2021 at 06:45 AM Author Posted September 2, 2021 at 06:45 AM I can see that VPilot host can only support the one user so is there any way I can achieve a setup with a 2 pilot sim with 2 EFBs? Best regards Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted September 2, 2021 at 04:33 PM Posted September 2, 2021 at 04:33 PM What exactly are you trying to achieve? If you want each pilot to have their own voice communications, that is not possible with vPilot since it only allows one remote to have a voice connection. That being said, there may be a way to have both pilots talking on the same voice connection by mixing their two audio devices, but that's not something I've ever attempted. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor Hannant Posted September 2, 2021 at 09:02 PM Posted September 2, 2021 at 09:02 PM Am I missing something or just seeing this as too simple - can the second pilot not login on the second vPilot instance as an observer? Trevor Hannant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted September 2, 2021 at 10:19 PM Posted September 2, 2021 at 10:19 PM 1 hour ago, Trevor Hannant said: Am I missing something or just seeing this as too simple - can the second pilot not login on the second vPilot instance as an observer? That would require running two copies of vPilot on the host sim computer, which isn't currently possible because vPilot only allows a single instance at a time. There are hacky ways to work around that, but I don't know what kind of problems might be caused by running two copies of vPilot Host on the same machine. And the two pilots still wouldn't be able to each be on different COM radios at the same time, since the sim only supports having one COM radio active for transmit at a time. And when one pilot transmits, the other pilot will hear them on a delay. I think the better solution would be to use third party tools to allow both pilots to share a single audio device, splitting it into two headsets. 1 Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Broadbent Posted September 3, 2021 at 01:31 AM Author Posted September 3, 2021 at 01:31 AM Thank you for the explanation Ross. Could this be something that might be addressed in future releases for those of us setup for 2 pilot flying? Best regards Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted September 3, 2021 at 03:35 AM Posted September 3, 2021 at 03:35 AM 1 hour ago, Robert Broadbent said: Could this be something that might be addressed in future releases for those of us setup for 2 pilot flying? It's pretty unlikely, for several reasons. First, SimConnect only supports a single pilot in terms of radio configuration. There's only one "transmitter". Second, this would require multiple PTT and multiple audio device (one per COM radio) support in the AFV voice library, which is not something I wrote or maintain. Third, the number of users that this would benefit (home cockpit builders with multiple pilots) is extremely small. I'm not saying it can't be done ... it would just be a lot of work that would only benefit a few users, so it isn't likely to ever be a higher priority than other updates that I want to make to vPilot and my other VATSIM software. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Broadbent Posted September 3, 2021 at 04:10 AM Author Posted September 3, 2021 at 04:10 AM Fair enough. Thank you. Best regards Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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