David Leitl Posted October 20, 2021 at 10:34 AM Posted October 20, 2021 at 10:34 AM Hi, as per current situation, the lights in MSFS are not synced correctly. I recognized, that once the Traffic-Aircraft logs in and powers up, all lights are shown correctly by vPilot. As soon as you reload the model-matching-rules, the lights are off and only coming back, when the pilot cycles the switch (e.g. landing lights). Would it be possible to have a "Nav lights always on" Checkbox within vPilot, so as per name, the lights are triggered always on, no matter which state the aircraft is transmitting? This would be helpful to at least have the traffic visible at all times. Best regards, David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted October 20, 2021 at 02:46 PM Posted October 20, 2021 at 02:46 PM I haven't had time to troubleshoot the issue with lights not syncing correctly in MSFS. Since the lights work fine in other sims, I don't think this is a vPilot issue, but I can't be sure until I have time to do some thorough debugging. Whether this is a vPilot issue or an MSFS issue, I am not fond of adding workaround features like this. It's always better to fix the actual root cause of the issue. And if it turns out to be an MSFS bug and it takes a long time for them to fix it, the better workaround would be to have vPilot continually sync the light states, perhaps once every second. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukas Stein Posted October 21, 2021 at 11:23 AM Posted October 21, 2021 at 11:23 AM https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/vatsim-ivao-traffic-lights-dont-sync-when-connecting/463812 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio Del Grosso Posted October 24, 2021 at 10:28 AM Posted October 24, 2021 at 10:28 AM Let us know if you need any help testing, its killing the experience at the minute! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Matos Posted October 28, 2021 at 11:27 PM Posted October 28, 2021 at 11:27 PM On 10/24/2021 at 5:28 AM, Giorgio Del Grosso said: Let us know if you need any help testing, its killing the experience at the minute! I agree. I hope this bug gets addressed. Asobo has ignored it for 3+ months and it hurts the Vatsim experience a lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juha Ronkko Posted October 29, 2021 at 06:15 AM Posted October 29, 2021 at 06:15 AM 6 hours ago, William Matos said: I agree. I hope this bug gets addressed. Asobo has ignored it for 3+ months and it hurts the Vatsim experience a lot... Not sure if it’s simulator bug and something Asobo needs to fix since IVAO does not have the same problem, lights sync correctly when connecting. I would assume clients in both networks has similar way to do it. But in the end, even if it’s something with the sim, some workaround would be great until it’s fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted October 29, 2021 at 05:57 PM Posted October 29, 2021 at 05:57 PM 11 hours ago, Juha Ronkko said: Not sure if it’s simulator bug and something Asobo needs to fix since IVAO does not have the same problem That doesn't necessarily mean it's not a bug, could just mean that IVAO's pilot client has implemented a workaround for the issue, similar to what I would do in vPilot when I find the time. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juha Ronkko Posted October 29, 2021 at 09:51 PM Posted October 29, 2021 at 09:51 PM 3 hours ago, Ross Carlson said: That doesn't necessarily mean it's not a bug, could just mean that IVAO's pilot client has implemented a workaround for the issue, similar to what I would do in vPilot when I find the time. Yeah sure they could implemented the workaround. That's why I said that if it's a sim bug, workaround would be welcome soon for vPilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juha Ronkko Posted November 2, 2021 at 07:55 PM Posted November 2, 2021 at 07:55 PM Some more info: User from MSFS forum tested with Swift and said lights does work with that client in Vatsim. I also did some testing with same model matching in both clients and indeed, lights does work correctly when connecting with Swift. I then disconnected Swift and launched vPilot with same model matching, connected and all aircraft was dark (when acft was lining up and turned ldg lights, those showed with vPilot but all other lights (nav, beacon, logo) were not turned on like they were with Swift on same aircraft). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Lehnert Posted November 3, 2021 at 01:59 AM Posted November 3, 2021 at 01:59 AM From MSFS Forum: "It can’t be that hard to make the changes necessary to show those stupid lights. It’s been going on for weeks and still doesn’t work." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted November 3, 2021 at 03:15 AM Posted November 3, 2021 at 03:15 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, Christian Lehnert said: From MSFS Forum: "It can’t be that hard to make the changes necessary to show those stupid lights. It’s been going on for weeks and still doesn’t work." Why do you feel it was necessary to cross post that here? Edited November 3, 2021 at 03:16 AM by Ross Carlson 3 Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Lehnert Posted November 3, 2021 at 11:27 PM Posted November 3, 2021 at 11:27 PM 20 hours ago, Ross Carlson said: Why do you feel it was necessary to cross post that here? Because you never know if everyone is reading everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted November 4, 2021 at 03:10 AM Posted November 4, 2021 at 03:10 AM 3 hours ago, Christian Lehnert said: Because you never know if everyone is reading everything. Then why that specific post and not every other post? 1 Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio Del Grosso Posted November 4, 2021 at 09:36 AM Posted November 4, 2021 at 09:36 AM 6 hours ago, Ross Carlson said: Then why that specific post and not every other post? I think that is their attempt to encourage you, the only man with the keys to fix this, to get on with it 🙂 I will go for a different approach. Please please Please please Please please Please please Please please Please please Please please pretty please, with cherry on top, fix it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted November 4, 2021 at 02:45 PM Posted November 4, 2021 at 02:45 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, Giorgio Del Grosso said: I think that is their attempt to encourage you, the only man with the keys to fix this, to get on with it 🙂 Obviously, but that is the WORST post to choose, since it exhibits nothing but ignorance and entitlement mentality. 5 hours ago, Giorgio Del Grosso said: I will go for a different approach. Please please Please please Please please Please please Please please Please please Please please pretty please, with cherry on top, fix it! Have a look at my last post in that thread, tells you all you need to know about my availability. Edited November 4, 2021 at 02:46 PM by Ross Carlson 1 Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Lehnert Posted November 4, 2021 at 10:30 PM Posted November 4, 2021 at 10:30 PM (edited) 7 hours ago, Ross Carlson said: Obviously, but that is the WORST post to choose, since it exhibits nothing but ignorance and entitlement mentality. Ok, no worries, but since it all takes much too long, vPilot will die for MSFS because people will have to look for other options, as they already do. Edited November 4, 2021 at 10:30 PM by Christian Lehnert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted November 5, 2021 at 01:53 AM Posted November 5, 2021 at 01:53 AM 3 hours ago, Christian Lehnert said: people will have to look for other options Isn't it great that other options exist? 1 Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Lehnert Posted November 5, 2021 at 02:42 AM Posted November 5, 2021 at 02:42 AM 48 minutes ago, Ross Carlson said: Isn't it great that other options exist? No. I don't like the other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted November 5, 2021 at 04:22 AM Posted November 5, 2021 at 04:22 AM 1 hour ago, Christian Lehnert said: No. I don't like the other options. Isn't it great that it's not all about you? 😂 1 3 Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted November 10, 2021 at 08:25 PM Posted November 10, 2021 at 08:25 PM I did some testing, found that if I send the SimConnect command to set the lights immediately after the aircraft model is created, the command seems to be ignored by MSFS. I have to wait a few seconds before sending the command. I am reaching out to the developers to see if this is something that can be changed such that it accepts the commands immediately. If not, I will build some delay into the system as a workaround. 2 Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio Del Grosso Posted November 18, 2021 at 08:14 AM Posted November 18, 2021 at 08:14 AM I loaded up yesterday to see a vpilot update. Was it anything to do with this? I’ve not tested it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted November 18, 2021 at 10:12 AM Posted November 18, 2021 at 10:12 AM 1 hour ago, Giorgio Del Grosso said: I loaded up yesterday to see a vpilot update. Was it anything to do with this? I’ve not tested it yet. Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio Del Grosso Posted November 18, 2021 at 10:17 AM Posted November 18, 2021 at 10:17 AM No then 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted November 21, 2021 at 12:31 AM Posted November 21, 2021 at 12:31 AM Version 2.8.4 is now released, which has a workaround for the lights issue. More details here: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/vatsim-traffic-lights-dont-sync-when-connecting/463812/102?u=btvpilot 1 Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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