Silas Kean Posted November 10, 2021 at 02:55 AM Posted November 10, 2021 at 02:55 AM Hey guys, Just registered to join the network a few hours ago. Looking to become ATC certified and play with some of you fine people! I passed my "New Member Orientation Test" and now am just waiting on a reply of acceptance for my account. In the meantime, I am getting everything setup. In a video I just watched ( about software instillation) the video explained that EuroScope is a really good software to use. However, he mentioned that it's really only meant for the European Region. They said to ask your local Region/Division what software you should be using, so here I am. What software should I be using for my division (Americas Region -> United States)? Either a reply for what software or even just a video link would be helpful. You're all awesome, Thanks so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Rider Posted November 10, 2021 at 04:03 AM Posted November 10, 2021 at 04:03 AM As soon as you're in the VATUSA discord server, you can expect there to be a heated discussion on this very topic at least once every other week. In the meantime, the typical progression is VRC for Delivery and Ground; vSTARS for Tower and TRACON positions; and vERAM for en route. VRC is the most user-friendly and the least like any real-world system. vSTARS and vERAM were designed to mimic their real-world namesakes and, as a result, require a great deal of study (and playing with) in order to use them effectively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clemens Martin Posted November 10, 2021 at 04:24 PM Posted November 10, 2021 at 04:24 PM VRC will be your initial ATC client in the U.S. Clem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Thomson Posted November 10, 2021 at 05:52 PM Posted November 10, 2021 at 05:52 PM 1 hour ago, Clemens Martin said: VRC will be your initial ATC client in the U.S. Is VRC not deprecated since May? Alistair Thomson === Definition: a gentleman is a flying instructor in a Piper Cherokee who can change tanks without getting his face slapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Kean Posted November 10, 2021 at 06:12 PM Author Posted November 10, 2021 at 06:12 PM Thank you all for the replies! It really means a great deal and surely will help. Ill definitely use all of this information to my advantage. You're all awesome! Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Shearman Jr Posted November 10, 2021 at 07:09 PM Posted November 10, 2021 at 07:09 PM 1 hour ago, Alistair Thomson said: Is VRC not deprecated since May? Incorrect -- we've been put on notice that the NEXT major update to the FSD protocol will likely render VRC incompatible. It's perfectly usable until whatever time that happens. Cheers, -R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Shearman Jr Posted November 10, 2021 at 07:10 PM Posted November 10, 2021 at 07:10 PM 2 hours ago, Clemens Martin said: VRC will be your initial ATC client in the U.S. Clem A *FEW* US ARTCCs are doing initial training on vSTARS now. So it depends on the facility one chooses. Cheers, -R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carlson Posted November 10, 2021 at 08:13 PM Posted November 10, 2021 at 08:13 PM 2 hours ago, Alistair Thomson said: Is VRC not deprecated since May? It's EOL (End-Of-Life) which is subtly different from deprecated. EOL means it won't receive any further updates. Deprecated means it is recommended to use something else. I can't really deprecate VRC until there is a suitable replacement. It won't be deprecated until I release CRC, which will replace VRC, vSTARS, and vERAM. (All three will be deprecated at that time.) It won't fully cease working until a change is made in the server that renders VRC unusable. At that time, VRC will be officially shut down. CRC will be released well before that day comes. As a side note, soon after CRC is released, we will likely prevent vSTARS and vERAM from connecting to the network, in order to get everyone moved over to CRC, since CRC contains all the functionality of vSTARS and vERAM, so there will be no need for facility engineers to continue to maintain data files for those clients. The same is not true of VRC, since I will not be copying all of the functionality of VRC over to CRC. For example, any of the non-US radar modes, like TAAATS, will not be copied over, since ES and vatSys provide much better implementations of those modes. Developer: vPilot, VRC, vSTARS, vERAM, VAT-Spy Senior Controller, Boston Virtual ARTCC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Maciel Posted November 11, 2021 at 10:19 AM Posted November 11, 2021 at 10:19 AM 13 hours ago, Ross Carlson said: It's EOL (End-Of-Life) which is subtly different from deprecated. EOL means it won't receive any further updates. Deprecated means it is recommended to use something else. I can't really deprecate VRC until there is a suitable replacement. It won't be deprecated until I release CRC, which will replace VRC, vSTARS, and vERAM. (All three will be deprecated at that time.) It won't fully cease working until a change is made in the server that renders VRC unusable. At that time, VRC will be officially shut down. CRC will be released well before that day comes. As a side note, soon after CRC is released, we will likely prevent vSTARS and vERAM from connecting to the network, in order to get everyone moved over to CRC, since CRC contains all the functionality of vSTARS and vERAM, so there will be no need for facility engineers to continue to maintain data files for those clients. The same is not true of VRC, since I will not be copying all of the functionality of VRC over to CRC. For example, any of the non-US radar modes, like TAAATS, will not be copied over, since ES and vatSys provide much better implementations of those modes. Thank you Ross, we are looking forward to see CRC working online soon! I have been a user of Euroscope since it was launched, it seems to me friendly to setup and use, but I have good memories of the VRC controlling and supervising online as well, such a great software. Kind regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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