James Mitchell Posted November 19, 2021 at 08:19 PM Posted November 19, 2021 at 08:19 PM (edited) Why did a controller out of Edmonton bother me when I was flying VFR when no aircraft was nearer than 200 nm of me? Edited November 19, 2021 at 08:22 PM by James Mitchell mispelt word 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Meese Posted November 19, 2021 at 08:27 PM Posted November 19, 2021 at 08:27 PM 1: Were you in airspace requiring clerance or two-way radio coms? VFR doesn't mean you can do your own thing anywhere you like. 2: Why didn't you ask him on PM? 3: Why on earth would you fly on this network if you consider ATC a nuisance? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Mitchell Posted November 19, 2021 at 08:37 PM Author Posted November 19, 2021 at 08:37 PM I was trying to set up a new computer and you're right I think most ATC are a nuisance, ergo I'll no longer fly here. 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Jenkins Posted November 20, 2021 at 02:58 AM Posted November 20, 2021 at 02:58 AM (edited) 9 hours ago, James Mitchell said: I was trying to set up a new computer Offline is a fantastic place to test things, not the middle of a class C airspace while on the network. 9 hours ago, James Mitchell said: you're right I think most ATC are a nuisance, ergo I'll no longer fly here. I honestly am not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not, but if you’re being serious, I’m sorry to say this but good riddance (mods feel free to delete this part of my message if it’s deemed to be a CoC violation). ATC are here to have fun in the same way you are so if you don’t ever want to interact with ATC or think that we’re always a nuisance, there is really no point to using VATSIM. edit: that being said, I am always open to explaining things to pilots who don’t understand why a contactme was sent to them or answer any other questions they may have. ATC are also humans and we also make mistakes from time to time so being able to respectfully talk to them and work it out is always going to be the best option as only they really know why they did something. tl;dr ATC is not an evil overlord trying to make your life miserable but we’re just here to have fun too. Don’t like it, leave. Edited November 20, 2021 at 06:16 AM by Josh Jenk 3 Josh Jenkins CZVR I1 controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted November 20, 2021 at 03:10 AM Board of Governors Posted November 20, 2021 at 03:10 AM I don't know about the other mods, but I'm not deleting it.... 😉 3 3 3 Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobias Dammers Posted November 20, 2021 at 01:46 PM Posted November 20, 2021 at 01:46 PM 17 hours ago, James Mitchell said: I was trying to set up a new computer and you're right I think most ATC are a nuisance, ergo I'll no longer fly here. So, problem solved, then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torben Andersen Posted November 20, 2021 at 03:14 PM Posted November 20, 2021 at 03:14 PM 18 hours ago, James Mitchell said: I was trying to set up a new computer and you're right I think most ATC are a nuisance, ergo I'll no longer fly here. With an attitude like that, Thank God you'll no longer fly here! Torben Andersen, VACC-SCA Controller (C1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Thomson Posted November 20, 2021 at 04:11 PM Posted November 20, 2021 at 04:11 PM I suppose that with 1.5 million members there will be some who can simply not be satisfied, no matter how hard we try. 1 Alistair Thomson === Definition: a gentleman is a flying instructor in a Piper Cherokee who can change tanks without getting his face slapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McMurdo Posted November 20, 2021 at 11:44 PM Posted November 20, 2021 at 11:44 PM The controllers do a great job here, and I know I can count on them keeping separation between us so I don't get caught in your wake turbulence as you depart, cya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Sweeney Posted November 20, 2021 at 11:53 PM Posted November 20, 2021 at 11:53 PM (edited) Quote Why did a controller out of Edmonton contact me when I was flying VFR? Adding to previous: while operating VFR, was the aircraft in airspace requiring clearance or two-way radio communications. Pilots may consider: 1. Canadian domestic airspace table (class A through G) For Class B, C, D ... VFR operations permitted with two-way radio communications, and/or additional clearance requirements. i.e. in controlled airspace, online ATC might send a contact request to VFR aircraft 2. For airspace (lateral and vertical), refer to information in NAV Canada's Designated Airspace Handbook, [next issue] including Edmonton FIR (section 3.2), Transition Areas, Control Area Extensions, Terminal Control Areas, Control Zones -For information about 'who to contact', VATCAN's Edmonton FIR includes "View Our Airspace" map with ATC enroute position/frequencies. -VATCAN's pilot-specific forum may also help for questions about VFR, airspace requirements or to learn "why did a controller contact an aircraft when flying VFR?" Edited November 21, 2021 at 12:35 AM by Mike Sweeney 3 2 Mike / 811317 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachary Collison Posted November 22, 2021 at 10:08 PM Posted November 22, 2021 at 10:08 PM On 11/19/2021 at 3:37 PM, James Mitchell said: I was trying to set up a new computer and you're right I think most ATC are a nuisance, ergo I'll no longer fly here. Grabbing the popcorn for this one, someones trying to start something 😉 Zachary Collison [email protected] CZYZ Webmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Thomson Posted November 23, 2021 at 01:53 PM Posted November 23, 2021 at 01:53 PM 15 hours ago, Zachary Collison said: Grabbing the popcorn for this one, Too late. James Mitchell has left the building... Alistair Thomson === Definition: a gentleman is a flying instructor in a Piper Cherokee who can change tanks without getting his face slapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Fuchs Posted November 23, 2021 at 02:22 PM Posted November 23, 2021 at 02:22 PM Yes, I think the show is over. Maybe he will come back at a later point in time and apologize, after he has realized how beautiful it is to fly with the HELP of ATC. 1 Cheers, Andreas Member of VATSIM GermanyMy real flying on InstagramMy Twitch streams of VATSIM flights and ATC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Smith Posted November 23, 2021 at 08:25 PM Posted November 23, 2021 at 08:25 PM Darn, I guess I'm too late. Pity. Thomas Smith - FIR Chief / Chief Instructor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Simpson Posted December 12, 2021 at 03:46 PM Posted December 12, 2021 at 03:46 PM On 11/20/2021 at 11:11 AM, Alistair Thomson said: I suppose that with 1.5 million members there will be some who can simply not be satisfied, no matter how hard we try. LOL! Only a teeny tiny percentage of that is actively flying on a regular basis. Most of those are "dead" accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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