Peter Matthess Posted January 12, 2022 at 07:47 PM Posted January 12, 2022 at 07:47 PM Hi All, I'm ramping up my flying on VATSIM using the old A2A Simulations B377 Stratocruiser. This is the civilian version of the Cargo C97, the Stratofreighter. Which is listed, but when I select B377 in Vpilot, it comes up with nothing, any suggestions? Regards, Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torben Andersen Posted January 12, 2022 at 08:01 PM Posted January 12, 2022 at 08:01 PM (edited) It doesn't seem to have an ICAO type designator assigned to it (https://www.icao.int/publications/DOC8643/Pages/Search.aspx) And in that case I would use C97 as I think it is the nearest match. Also https://aviationfanatic.com/ doesn't show any code. Edited January 12, 2022 at 08:06 PM by Torben Andersen Torben Andersen, VACC-SCA Controller (C1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted January 12, 2022 at 08:35 PM Board of Governors Posted January 12, 2022 at 08:35 PM I agree with Torben. The C97 is the nearest match. As a side note, at the risk of me sounding like an old fart, you have my respect, admiration, and astonishment, all wrapped in one, for keeping alive an aircraft that was retired 59 years ago, and for attempting to file a flight plan with an aircraft type code that was retired from the FAA type code database in 1972, 50 years ago..... 😉 Your other option in vPilot is SGUP, the Super Guppy, a "contemporary" variant of the 377, put into service in 1965. There were 5 of those built, only one of which is still flying. Even the current owner and the FAA don't know what it's type code is/should be, according to their flight plans (with one exception, on 21 Oct 2021).... https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N941NA/history Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Matthess Posted January 12, 2022 at 09:00 PM Author Posted January 12, 2022 at 09:00 PM (edited) This pains me, to use the C97, made to look like I'm hauling rubber dog*** outta HongKong when I'm in reality hauling cultured delegates in their smoking suits and dinner jackets sipping martini's in the downstairs lounge - whatwhat!!!! 🧐 Is there any way to request VATSIM add 'B377' to their registry list? Hi Torben, It's this right here https://aviationfanatic.com/ent_show.php?ent=4&AT_ID=__B377 Pretty please with sugar on top? Edited January 12, 2022 at 09:05 PM by Peter Matthess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Board of Governors Don Desfosse Posted January 12, 2022 at 09:22 PM Board of Governors Posted January 12, 2022 at 09:22 PM It has nothing to do with VATSIM; you would have to petition EACH client developer and convince them to break their methodology of aligning with proper ICAO codes to accommodate you, one out of nearly 800,000 registered members.... Never mind the fact that there are zero software developers out there that have AI for the B377, so you connecting as one would mean that you'd be yet one more of those annoying aircraft out there that would render for anyone that could see you as a default white CRJ, white Asobo 4 engine jet, Cessna 172, etc., depending on what every other connected member has set as a model matching default. Further evidence that any investment of their time and effort to design and release a modification/customization of their methodology would be to serve only one out of the nearly 800,000 people in our community. As an old sentimental softie, I wish you good luck. As an engineer that relies on data and return on investment calculations to determine where I prioritize my time and the time of my organization, I think the probability is pretty low.... In any case, I wish you luck. Don Desfosse Vice President, Operations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Shearman Jr Posted January 12, 2022 at 09:22 PM Posted January 12, 2022 at 09:22 PM 21 minutes ago, Peter Matthess said: Is there any way to request VATSIM add 'B377' to their registry list? Depends on the method by which you file, but -- given the number of completely invalid codes I see on VATSIM, I don't think there's anything stopping you from using it. Cheers, -R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torben Andersen Posted January 13, 2022 at 07:57 AM Posted January 13, 2022 at 07:57 AM 10 hours ago, Peter Matthess said: This pains me, to use the C97, made to look like I'm hauling rubber dog*** outta HongKong when I'm in reality hauling cultured delegates in their smoking suits and dinner jackets sipping martini's in the downstairs lounge - whatwhat!!!! 🧐 Is there any way to request VATSIM add 'B377' to their registry list? Hi Torben, It's this right here https://aviationfanatic.com/ent_show.php?ent=4&AT_ID=__B377 Pretty please with sugar on top? Hi Peter - yes, the aircraft type id is there, but as you can see, the ICAO type designator field is empty, so while it seem logically to use B377, it's actually not an official ICAO designator Torben Andersen, VACC-SCA Controller (C1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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